and there's somebody who's now at the board. Yes. Public speak about there we go. Go ahead. You know, it's always an argument. Good evening to everyone. We'd like to welcome you to the regular meeting for the Board of Ed for June 2025. First up is going to be the pledge of allegiance in terms of an opening statement. Only thing that we ask is comments from the public about the captain's in an afternoon. Thank you. If I believe that it was to apply on the United States of America and to the public for wishes and sands, one on the ocean, one on the ocean, the indivisible for liberty and justice for all. Okay. Comment from the public. Holly. Maranelle. We can't hear you.
But that's okay. One new one. I don't really have to say yes. You want to just give us a thumbs up if you have it. If you don't have a comment. I'm sorry. Hi. Thank you so much. I just wanted to share kudos and my respect and esteem for the entire team. For those of you who are parents and do care for our kiddos and aren't there on the front lines. I've been there on the front lines as a substitute and I am so impressed by how much is done and so much that's done for the children. And so I'm very appreciative as a parent of a seven year old and a three year old. Thank you so much for what you do for all of our children and for our community, the board and the teachers and staff. Thank you. Jim and Goldrich. Come on, set. Thank you. Josh. I'm here from Fussonial to discuss the rest room renovation. Yeah. Thank you for joining us. Jim Ryan. Yeah. I'm the solar guy to discuss a thing. Hi. And Jen. Hi. I'm here to discuss the rest room project. I work with Josh Boudreau. Okay. Thank you so much. On the end of the night. You don't have anything to share with us today?
I'm just plating with the board of the solar and the solar and the extra board. Yeah. Um, in terms of communications does have to do this. Anyone have anything they want to share that is on the dress elsewhere in my agenda tonight. We'll catch student celebrations and know you have any. I do. I would love to celebrate for a few minutes. So obviously we are close to the school year. Just a day and a half to go. We are. It feels like a celebration every day. The last few weeks. We have so many things that we want to celebrate. So it was blue day. So I appreciate there was a lot of you wearing blue right now. I don't know who got that memo. But I love that. Um, I knew it was blue day. You love stars. Um, you know what I'm planning. We just say yes. Yes.
We were excited to celebrate the house of Reverse. They won the first house championship. Um, and we celebrated all day long and came together. Um, so that was really fun. And so I just wanted to share a little bit. I've talked a lot this year about our new reading curriculum and about bookworms. And certainly we don't have standardized or aspects for as officially available to share. But, um, you know, we have building data. And then we also have that kind of, um, maybe not the numbers necessarily. But that student girl. So if you would indulge me for just a minute.
I just want to read, um, just a couple lines from, um, a recent assignment where every single grade level in bookworms does a reflection at the end of the year. And who they are and how they've grown as a reader and writer. And then they also do a book review project where they pick the book. The, their favorite book they read this year and then they go down to the grade level below and get to share it as a way to say, um, they're so excited. Um, guess what you get to read next year. And so that was a big, um, one of our celebrations this year. And so just a couple lines that I think you'll enjoy, um, at the beginning of the year in fourth grade, I felt like my reading skills needed to be improved. And I did improve over the year. In the fall, I read 148 words per minute. Then in the spring, I was reading 182 words per minute. My writing skills were not that good because of my punctuation. I used to mess up my verbs, adverbs, adjectives and all that stuff. But my writing changed when I started to read a lot more and had a lot more ideas. Like I read more fiction books and I had big ideas and bigger imagination. I used to read every few nights now. But I read every night at home. Um, I was a punctuation and well decent. Now there's soon I could only read 92 words per minute at the beginning.
And now I can read 150 words per minute. The goal for fourth grade is 125 words per minute. I can read more than that. Um, I did not like books. But that suddenly changed when my teacher brought a book out and we read it together. It has to be the best book ever, Tangerine. Because it had action and sports, good and evil and every two characters. Now I like reading all because of that book. Uh, writing a paragraph was one of the worst things I had to do. But I was getting better as the weeks went on and it got easier to write. I'm still working on it. I'm trying to figure out if my sentence is sound good, but still I try my best. I started feeling more confident in myself. So just a few excerpts. Fourth grade's always the kind of that middle age in the case six to kind of see. Um, those are just really exciting to see. Because yes, we'll present numbers and data and that matters. But this, this matters too. And so then, um, we just got to show. Show you this one or two where then they, this was that book that you just heard Tangerine. Well, they made. Um, picked their favorite book. Wrote about the reasons why and kind of sold it to them. You know, this is why you'll love this book. And then they went down a grade level and said, hey, third graders. Like, guess what you're going to get to read next year.
So that was really fun. Um, again, kind of not only in reading, but that cross age. And just seeing that unity as we go up in the grade. So that was some of the exciting celebration. And I think, um, be some of the data we have in our school assessments. We're going to see some really good growth in that area of reading. And I'll be excited to celebrate that with you in the fall. And I think, you know, in math while we have some some success. That is, it is going to be our area of focus for next year. Um, and so you're going to hear me talk next year a lot about the math world. And the PD we're doing there and, um, the plan we have to move forward in the same way that we have been doing with ELA. So I just wanted to celebrate a little bit for you there.
Yeah, you want to cross John. Absolutely. That's how a picture of a little boy who made it to like a state, creating the competition. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yes. It looked like that. So we did. We had, I don't know if anyone will recognize this name. But we had Tygen, who represented us. Um, and Valerie actually was able to go see him. She was, he was, I think dropped you. And it's not just because it's like kids sitting over and I'm saying that he knows. It wasn't his kid. The group is full. Imagine this. The group is full. Up at the University of Connecticut. And there's kindergarten through grade 12 of winners. Better there. One for every grade. Not five. One. And they're going to go up on this stage. And they're going to read their story. Okay. To everybody in the room. And. Our hand over student. Goes up there. Like a little rock star.
And it's like he's not even the soleitis bit nervous. And he gets up there and reads it. And everybody cheers. Okay. They weren't just clapping. They were like, wow. Look at this kid. He was. He. I'm not as parent. I mean, he's just one of our students. And I was so proud of them. Like he was phenomenal. To get up there and do this. Most adults could do this. And he's third grand. And he was. Was up there. I was so proud of him. I really was. I mean, thank you for inviting me letting me go to that. Because he was phenomenal. And I looked forward to his stories moving forward. Didn't he read it? Yeah. So I was going to say he also presented it to his third grade class. He looked at me like I was a little crazy when I said, well, I'm on the cafeteria in front of everyone. He said. He said. Down Mrs. Barney. Um, like he did a great job. His teacher said he was really proud. He was really proud of him as well. And I think that's a really cool thing. Um, and you know, I, we've been talking a lot as, as a staff about the idea of enrichment and how it doesn't always look. Um, one way, right? And it doesn't always mean just an enrichment class. It means how are we fostering kids. Um, what they're interested in and what they're passionate about. And so it's exciting to see kids kind of excel and and celebrate outside of school.
Um, so I'll add. I was waiting for my principal before. But no worries. I think go under celebrations. I have another student as well. Um, decks and slater from kindergarten. So he submitted in. It's called. I wanted to get it right. EE smarts annual student contest to energize Connecticut. Um, and it was ways you can conserve energy. And so he placed at a 500 students. He was the third place winner. Um, so he went and he made a poster on how he could. Uh, conserve energy. And so, um, we did a second time burger, his teacher joined him to access that award. So that was really cool too. So we just have, you have it to see these in kindergarten. Well, I ate like 354 years.
You have not chosen yep. No, he's about 500. No, Taylor said it but I'm not sure that you heard that. These two boys, they entered on their own. The school did not enter as a school. And I say that because when I was there. with Mike that night. I had seen another couple of people that I knew representing the town of Mansfield and they were wonderful for children who are in there but the school had sanctioned this contest. Okay so R2 winners did this on their own. It wasn't something that they entered through school. So that to me just makes it even more special that they on their own are going out and participating in enrichment opportunities. So that I thought was fantastic. Absolutely. To learn about it. I sharing your excitement in celebration these days. I think this is what makes this school so special. And we're lucky enough to have kids like that. Yes. The town is tiny enough right that like they can show that and celebrate that with their classmates and have to support them. Right of their community. That's what makes the school so special. Yeah. I think it's like like it's a way also broad test like the hard work with teachers to play with these kids. It was like there's so many of them when could shine in different ways and like for us to see more and more of that. It's just it's like it really does give you even more proof of what the great work that teachers and staff are doing here. And there's another
another option to delve for this place to be proud of. Yeah, sure. Yeah, but thank you for watching. Again, myself. Yes. Yes. Yes, thank you. Okay. So we have approval of minutes from our last meeting on May 14. Anyone want to have a meeting just to go on questions. We'll approve. Hi. And then adding or deleting it and the items is there anything else? Oh, right. Yeah. Thank you. Okay. It's the last week of school. Whatever. I'm going to have the same since I wasn't here. Yeah. It felt me five. There are one and then the last is not here to be. Okay. Would anyone like to add
a group? I would. I sent just a communication about our school calendar. So I'd like to add a discussion of amending the school calendar and possible action in the board process. Where do you want to put that? Oh, I'm going to do it with the staff. Yeah. Where are you going to do that? Yeah. Where are you going to do that? Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. You're needed to find the favor of adding that. Yeah. Okay. Oh, and they were adding that of date F to amend the school calendar. Five and they want to post. Okay. So six zero. Okay. Anyone else? No. But okay. For oral reports. Aside from what's been going on with the town and the fact that we were able to pass our budget. I don't really have any other major news that isn't addressed elsewhere. In our agenda for tonight. So we did. We did pass the budget. Fibricated for that referendum. It's good. We'll kind of move forward about the figure out what we're going to have things to align with financial value. So in terms of facilities, we've got two guests on tonight that will speak to the folk of them, the bathroom project and the solo project. So I'll leave that one deeper
right now. Same with the audit, both the policy and the financial audit. We'll be discussing when we get down to D as well as the planning of the retreat. So the only two things that I really have right now. Grant updates. We have drawn down and Terry will talk in a financial report. We've drawn down all of the grants that expire June 30th. And they are spent with the exception of $10 and one of them which darn we missed that $10. Terry said, I'm glad it was for you though because she goes, I hate that. She did great. Awesome. So thank you, Terry. Every $10 was I get annoyed with it. I could try to order some pencil. She's like, that was $10. But whatever. Then the other thing that I did send you guys and we won't read the whole thing, but I'm trying to keep you abreast of any of the changes as the state legislator now has finished their budget from here, the governor's budget. There were two that I sent you for Bill 501 and then the Senate there were one. There are a few more
coming up that those were the two that I had to send you and I did send you to the Board of Finance as well. So that will be forward if we do discuss things related to our own budget on funded mandates, changes, things like that. That perhaps if they were interested that they would have a little bit more knowledge about it. So there's a few members that were grateful. So those members that expressed in the interest in continuing to get those, I will send them to those members of the Board of Finance. Just so that as we move forward, everybody's informed. The biggest things for us have to do with ECS dollars. That's for the town as well. We will be held harmless for the next two years, which is great because I know that the start of this budget season, that was questionable, doesn't affect us directly when we do the budget because that's a source of revenue for the town side. But it certainly does affect the whole town because they're educational question sharing dollars.
If anybody does see anything advertised about seed, money, SED, there is allocations for every town. We're still a process of figuring out what we would possibly be able to spend them on because there's limitations. And you can't supplant your budget. You have to supplement it. So in other words, if you had a person that was already working here, you couldn't, unlike some of the other grants, say, we'll pay that person with this grant because they fit the category of what the grant's written for it. That's called supplanting, where you take it right out of your budget. Because it's supplemental, it can't be something that's already in your budget that exists and have to be something in addition to right. And so we've been able to kind of do that a little bit in the past with especially part-time employees. If I can show, we did that with our mental health grant. We had a mental health worker grant and that person was only here. Two and a half days a week when that started and we added another day. In essence, that contract, they're adding new position at their day. And so we were able to do that. So not really sure yet because it's, I'm grateful that they gave us 14,000 that we didn't get it yet. But that there's 14,000 allocated. But I want to be careful because we don't want the position to spend 25,000 to use that 14,000 if that didn't sense.
So I got to a little bit where we searched this summer and see what exactly would be in our best interest to use that for. The other things don't pertain really to every student. A lot of them had to do with private rates for special education students in the state saying that we're going to set certain caps. Some of it had to do with Access Cost, which we don't currently get reimbursed because we don't meet the threshold of four and five times right individual student. And then the last one that did pertain to us, which I know kind of was a little hot button this year. I had to do with the development of preschool and we've mentioned before, so I want to go through all of it. But we mentioned that there is no more school readiness that it's going to be early start as the big umbrella and the state has that big umbrella now overseeing basically birth to kindergarten. To prior to kindergarten I should say and so that's going to be changed because that change means that the state is expecting that everybody take the responsibility for daycare, top and care and preschool and so money is going to be tied to the ability to.
Utilize your space in your program effective you're doing right and they are going to expect that parents this is a lot of this has to do with parents being able to have choice. And the desert areas they call them the daycare desert areas of Connecticut where there's just a little bit slots. And so we are way out of the game there as you guys know I know that there's a lot of people that don't quite understand why we were ahead of the game, but it was for a thought for us and everybody understands that because we are filling our old spots meeting the needs. Our teachers are making a teacher salary which was another component they want daycare centers to start paying their preschool teachers what our teachers make so we're good we can check that off the list even our prayer professionals that are in there their salaries are.
So most of those boxes we're going to be able to check off. It's a matter of us just making sure moving forward that has those new regulations with the state happen we make sure that we keep up with them and so tell her I am meeting we'll update you. There is anybody out the community that's interested in joining on these LGP groups or being a parent ambassador please let us know because we'll be with you and we're loving it and we'll be looking for people to fill those positions but we're in good shape moving forward. We're hoping that our funding will increase significantly. In the coming years because we are definitely hoping to make sure that any of those empty spots that we talked about before are filled with others so it's really good news for us it's just there's a lot of stuff there. That's really it with those two bills that affect us. What's the and I read something about in terms of the kindergarten starting years and they that was part of it saying that they won't take waivers anymore.
The the waiver is didn't get defeated right now if there are districts right now that do want to. The value wait a child who has a birthday to that would say they have to stay in preschool and they can still do that this year. I don't know anything at all right. No that hasn't passed. It's written in but it just hasn't passed. Right. You did read it right. Originally I had to I would have so confused but then it must have passed. Okay, but it's dope. Yeah, I mean, I think that that's why for them I do think eventually they may come to a compromise and say let's put it in the hands of the districts to figure out what they want to do.
But they are looking at certain districts that last year allowed the kids to just go to kindergarten and they're not scoring very well on. And kindergarten benchmark assessments then and so they're kind of looking at that figuring. What can we do you know and I do think that especially since now there's so much more funding for special and that they're going to have to also see if there's a correlation. Yes, so you're next year between those kids that went in early and potential referrals and I think it's very wise but I think that a little slow because. Right. Don't forget if the focus right now is let's find preschool spots for kids. You can't at the same time saying at the expense of moving the older ones to kindergarten whether they're ready or not. So they don't want anybody to do that either. To say we're going to sacrifice those five year olds. That have to be right. Oh, right. So I think they're they're being careful and it's a good thing and we'll just keep you up to date at every meeting. I have a question. I have a couple. So with the. I'm going to turn into special education one. Yeah. Position. The instructional support requirements. Yep. So. And you explain what we're doing now. Verse one. This. I'm planning. We're in a position. Number five. Yes. Okay. So for those people who don't have it in front of them. It says beginning in the 2627 school year each school much must designate an instructional support. The role would be that this person would participate in IEP development and planning and placement teams,
P.P.T.s. Attend and provide training on student interventions and manage the aspects of the IEP administration. The position is designed to alleviate the workload on special education staff and improve service delivery. Since we're small. I wrote on here since we're small. This will mean that we'll have to add a person perhaps part time to take this on if it's on funded in 2026. But just know the flip side to that is we do currently have someone that does that. We have a part time special director and we have a administrative assistant that assists with that. So what I'm waiting for is more guidance from them on tell us exactly what that looks like. Because we have that already not every district has that. So as soon as they give us that night line and we could say it's met then we're okay. So that's why I say to you I gave this to you guys so we can follow along because I see it in the news that I say didn't use papers and articles, but for the most part right now we didn't feel that we needed to add anything right now we feel we need to follow it. Ask questions and make sure that we're in the right place. Okay. Anybody else questions on us too. Okay then that is it for me and we can move on to the other stuff in other parts of the agenda.
There you have other questions we're good. So professional development updates I know there's only a day and a half but believe it or not we are to start planning for next year. And so I just I mentioned briefly in celebrations that you'll hear on me starts to talk about math and so. For you know thinking critically about what kind of professional development makes the most sense. We have several staff members who have started to look at the building thinking classrooms which is a. An initiative a philosophy maybe you could say about how we teach math to kids and it's really about critical thinking. It's really about problem solving and so that's one area that we're going to look at and we'll use likely as. A base so that something to to keep in mind we're going to continue to plan on collaborating with even in Marborough in terms of our bookworms that wouldn't stop just because we start focusing on math a little bit more. So we've already been in discussions about that and what that can look like in terms of shadowing or. Continuing study. And then in continuing with random and so this year I I hope I believe I mentioned at a board meeting that we had some staff go up and visit ramp and they shadowed so our fifth and sixth grade teacher and. Our math and reading specials went up and that was just really a tremendous impact for them those four hours and able to. See what's happening in seventh grade take a look at what those classrooms look like sound like what that work looks like all that kind of thing.
The ramp has expressed an interest to do the same back I mean even their seventh grade teachers getting a chance to see what a sixth grade look like in an elementary school and so we hope to continue to partner with them. And then even things kind of other out of the boxing so the music department at Hebrew and has asked about is their opportunity to collaborate throughout the year for the band to come together. To bring on and doing a sound necessarily performance for all the parents but together doing some sort of performance which then led to conversations around okay. What about kids weren't bands and so I you know back last weekend said well what about a stem. An action you know for those kind of kiddos so just I just wanted you to know those conversations are happening actively even as we go in the summer that's actually when it will pick up. The between all three buildings and and certainly on our pdes team which is that professional development teacher evaluation team we have here so. That's happening. We're also very exciting we have concluded our hiring process to add our new teachers to our team and so I wanted to just introduce them by name to you here certainly I'm happy to invite them to the August board meeting if that works for the board or whatever board meeting like just you can meet them in person.
We're very excited we have two of our current student teachers so Christina Catarina will move into precake position and that is do we had we did have a step resignation so she was hired she will move to pre case or excited about that. Caitlin Dolby was also a student teacher here and will move into third grade so that's exciting and then graceful dark check is a new teacher joining our team and will be beginning for teaching adventures and her first year in fourth grade with Mrs. Dixon. And then finally more in Sullivan will join our five six team and she comes with experience in teaching both six grade and in specifically in the reading and Richmond and intervention world so we're really excited about our new team members and again I will certainly bring them to introduce to you in person but I wanted to.
Introduce them by me at the very least. Questions for me I think I've covered. We're with a day and a half left what I can cover for what we're doing. I'm just first for enrollment stuff for next year do we have like a number or like shared. I've never. I can get no I mean like for the whole school I did not calculate it that right now but I can real quick in a minute I will I do know kindergarten is right at 24 right now and we're at 65 in precake. And we are we have had one new sixth grader at least so I can calculate it I should not for you and just I know yes. Let me let me do that. I want to put six grade at 28 for the next year. We anticipate with a move at 27 of a student certainly even not like that's where we are now and that's always the interesting thing about seven or two yeah for the older grades that's where we get the movements move out. I'm kind of. Kinder usually we might get one more and and precake but for the first or sixth graders it's usually mid summer people are buying houses and things like that. I'm only acting because of like I know that. I know it's one. It's one or next year so yeah so right now we do anticipate splitting them in just two sections for reading for ELI but they will be together. I misspoke take it back with a gift they will be split for math I apologize and ELA lens itself more to a larger group the curriculum so math they will be split into 13 13 but ELA they'll be together.
And then obviously they're going to work. I will be back here if I'm at the reality I'll be having a different conversation but yeah. Sorry Mike I didn't I didn't add it all together but we're doing very well. I said it was 65. Yes we are 65 for precake. Anyhow a waiting list. Oh yes and I'm tour I have two or three tours set up I think for tomorrow you know that I mean that. That waiting list gets gets going and I keep touring. How many of those 65 are it would be rising giving gardeners next year. Oh man you're really putting me on. Wow that's up my head I do. Yeah I do. I do. In Rome I got it. Yes I can. We do anticipate a little bit bigger because this because of that age there was our precake in general.
We're actually going to have probably two classes we've originally thought one but two at four and five year olds. We have so many older precares which is awesome which blends itself to like you have question you're asking. I'll definitely get you that number is it a large one. So you can have like so we are because we have part it really helps us to and we don't have to lock in for life. We can look at each enrollment group each 60 and say what makes them a sense for this group which is nice. So we are going to have we have a high number of students will be five by January who are in preca right. Yeah that the verb baby so we're excited to to really be able to tailor our program to them and going into second year now with the cutoff change. We've learned a lot so. We're excited about. One more question. Yeah. Cool survey. I know sometimes I'll two parents. Yeah. Is that something shared with the administration or the. Yeah. It does. So I'll do a board. I'll do a presentation. I did that in September with us. I might have been a little bit earlier but I do. I do a staff survey student survey and a parent survey and they look good. We do the informal results. We've already gone through as a staff we actually presented directly back to them so that they can see obviously where we stand. So we do that at our last professional development and make plans for hey. What do we want to do to solve any of these problems that are highlighted what are things we want to carry forward.
And then students survey with staff we usually go through in the fall we look at the students survey together and say okay what do we need to you know anything we can amend. And then parents survey certainly I share. Val and I study and then we share. Through. Absolutely. Um. Fans already part. Yeah. Okay. What we have a bit to discuss tonight. Um. As part of your packet as usual is the summary custom expenditure report for the 2425 school year and then following that is the detail. And then as requested at the very end of your packet is the um. As of June 2nd where we were with the pre case information and we are right on track with that.
So before I move on does anybody have any questions about those reports. Okay. And then I have one just one question. So the um actually I heard what I noticed that I was. Not fully spent. But that just because snow actually interests. Well, that's the coaching in the clubs. Yeah. I believe some of the um. I don't know. Valerie, can you answer that question? No, not this year. Um, this year. Um, we didn't run. A lot of the extra floods that by contract. We have to budget for because for example. Uh, in the teachers contract it says that staff members paid X number of dollars for a Lego club. You have to budget for that. Because. Correct. Because it's in the teachers contract. But after we had two years of the after school this year. We planned the parent activities this year and lieu of some of those other ones. Um, so yeah, it didn't get used this year. We didn't run a lot of those paid clubs for teachers. The teachers weren't interested this year and running those specific clubs.
Doesn't mean they didn't run other things like we had teachers that worked after school with the kids on invention convention. And those sorts of things they just didn't run it for paying. So yeah, the only thing that we don't have to be in the future. Just like just like retirement is in there. Because if there's an elementary to my first thing, you have to budget in case they retire that year. I don't have that. Okay. So like for you or me, like looking at the budget right like when I'm like, where are we going to come up with this money? I'm like, we don't have a retirement bio. We can take that out right like that's 15,000 dollars. But you're not allowed to. You have to budget for it. You have to budget for it. Yeah. You could transfer it at the end. But you do have to budget for it because if I contract, if the teachers asked to do that, that's impact. So the only thing that went into that line for expenses were after school banned practices. And the party in that kind of yearbook. Yeah. That was a glove that went in there. The band after school practice and the other one was teens, which is. Our teacher, we have a teacher mentor that that gets paid a stipend for mentoring newer teachers.
And those teeth and that that teacher gets $500 per person that she's mentoring. So she was over $1,000. Unfortunately, the state only gave me 460. So I had to I had to pay her the rest of that line. So it did get utilized. It just didn't get utilized in the info. Okay. And the other questions about the current 2425 expenditure reports. Okay. So Val handed out some financials for you. We did not have this. The town. This is the town of Andover. The accounts that we have within the AES capital account. The North and Fund and the school improvement fund, which is also the 2% non-lapsing fund. Okay. So if you could just take a minute to look through it and let me know if you have any questions.
I did just get there's the other day. And I made some notes to make it a little bit easier to understand. You know, where the balances are, what's going. So as you can see, like the AES capital. Money is supposed to be included. In with the AES expansion fund, but that money has not been moved over to that account. It is on the spreadsheet on the first page. It was deposited into the town's general. Yeah. I don't think they're going to move it to that bank. I don't think they're going to move it to that bank. Okay. Okay. Well, that's why I have the spreadsheet on top to tell you that at least the numbers are there. And we can see that they've been paying out of that account. Yeah. The other one I made a note on was the 2% lapsing. The monies have not all been deposited to that account. Yeah. Either from. From all of it being being from last year. Yeah. Okay. But I just wanted to make sure we'll keep in track of all this stuff. Any questions on those statements? I don't have a question on statement. I guess my only real question is on on the summary. Yeah. For that instructional by some salaries. Well, I did the handout that I was going to go over next. Yes. Yes. Is the budget transfer form?
Yes. I understand that. My question is really like. Is there a reason why that's. So much higher than what the budget was. And is that something that you think will continue to hurt? Well, part of it was because we we utilized all the idea money for the. The pairs that we normally have in there, but their their salaries are higher than that ramp. So we had to put some of it into that account. Well, and it was also. So Taylor mentioned that they're getting that you know, we've done the higher the teachers. There were. Physicians that were not permanently filled with Paris. I'm going to be cautious because you know, I don't like to ever give out information on particular students. So. There were. Students that required instructional assistance support for educators support this year. And it did take us a little while to make sure that we matched the right person. So they came in as. Substitutes. And then they moved out of that line. They either stay with us as a substitute and then become a permanent era. What they didn't stay with us. And so Terry had categorized them with what their title was. Yeah, of course, New Year, which was basically a sub. If they're here to information or period or something like that. And then if they work out.
And then we moved to them. I can tell you that the next meeting Taylor will have to give you other names of paraprofessionals that were the process of hiring right now. Because all of those good positions that were being temporarily filled with subs will be permanently filled with a start of next school year. And so that is why when she does the transfers here in some of that money, you have to go to cover in that line item because that was the legal title. They were, um, you know, a substitute. But they were a substitute because we had a vacancy over the other line of a paraprofessional. So does anyone get that? Yeah, helping. So really bottom line them as I go forward for next year is that's probably won't be the case for next year. Yes, they will be in a perfect way to transfer it from one line to the other, they'll be in that line. Feeling more confident about the hires for next year. But all the way up there, right? Anybody who is listening and doors made a good point at the beginning where, you know, she's here now and she's able to see how hard people work and she is a sub.
And so, you know, subs do understand that it is for everybody. You see a different job when you get here and so it's not to disparage anybody that came aboard as a sub for a parrot and then said, thank you. It's that it's a hard job and they came aboard and they thought I could do this and then there were a couple of turn of course of the year that said, I can't do this. So thank you for the opportunity. But this is not my call. And so when you go again, the last thing we wanted to do was put just because to put some of my permanently in the union at the beginning without a trial. Just to find out that they were not happy. So, so that's definitely we'll always back anywhere else for us.
Did you want me to discuss any of the recommendations that I have for budget transfer? Yeah, I feel like I should go. Okay, so this is this form. Sorry, it's handwritten, but it took some doing. You guys can add this stuff to it. And the like I said, these are just recommendations if anybody has anything they would rather see differently. This is not. No, this is just for your review and and let me know what you want to do. Okay, so the first set of numbers there teacher salaries all the way down that those are salaries and benefits. Obviously, we're moving some teacher salaries over to cover the subs and benefit money like we said the retirement money that didn't get used is going over to cover the sub lines and also along with the unemployment. Okay, on the second set of four numbers once again, we're moving salaries to subs because we have. You know, we have to offset that. Yes, the next set of numbers and I tried to do this as as easy as possible and make the same. Yes, so then you'll see on the next one is benefits to benefits. Okay, the fight command. It I don't know what happened with that, but it was a little higher than we thought this year. On next page. Services such as coaching in clubs as you noted, we had a little bit of a surplus there services to services.
So we're moving money from clubs and professional service personnel over to tech and OT. Okay. Next section salaries and benefits as you know, we're parent maintenance was over all year long and we have to take care of that. Transportation and magnets school money being moved over to the tech lines. I know when we went through our budget for next year. I told you that we needed more money in the tech lines and we should be all set for next year. And then the last three lines on that page to wish and benefits and retirement over to supplies. Okay, that's a little bit of a and that's a little bit of a leap but it has to be done. And finally on the last page, once again, supplies to supplies utilities to utilities. We did well with oil, but we did terrible with electricity, so we had to move that over. We we agree that we had some extra money in the lunch line and that got moved over to that's going to be moved over based on your approvals tonight to the small equipment tech line.
And then finally more unemployment money moved over to professional services. So if we did this, we would have a balanced budget. There are 20 or 25. The discussion. I know it's a lot. If you need time to look at it and come back to it again, but it's a video salary. And but. There was a surplus in the custodial salary. Yeah, is that because we lost a custodian or someone didn't work out. One time there was four custodians we bought or we had some more summer. We don't like we don't bring in the extra. Some of the people on the home that we once did bring in and.
The custodian that's here at night when we switched from deep as the head and Scott as the second. There's a chance. We did to Scott as the head and Anthony has the second Anthony came in new to us. So there was a little bit of a savings that I'll say. Okay. And we had some savings in the nursing salary. And I think you as you know, we've talked about before this out per salary includes the subs. That line includes her sub. Okay. But we had a question. I have is on your second page where you have teacher salary. And but I'm assuming was we were benefits that wouldn't go with that. The stock to return maintenance. Those are your intern health insurance benefits. No, I understand. What do you need to know? I'm sorry. My question is really just like. Those two together is a very large amount of money. So is that that a teacher's salary that was covered by the rent or. So for benefits you're talking about. No. Oh, for ten turns. Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. The teacher salaries. Yes. They were off set by grants. Okay. And then the benefits was just people coming on and off the insurance. So we had a little bit of a surplus. We really only had like. Equivalent to like one family surplus on the benefits.
And the and the teacher salary ramp coverage. It's like multiple small grants for. Yeah. For multiple. Correct. When you look at the benefits. Cherry just I'm sorry to interrupt. But just so that anybody who doesn't understand. And I know you guys do. I just want to say for any of our guests as well. When you look at even one change. The average board cost. For a person for a single person is between 10 and 11,000. Yeah. The average board cost for a family is 30,000. Yeah. So when you look at 24,000 and of course we won't give you the details of who or what it was. But 24,000 could be two people in two different. Yeah. And if all those. Well, children. We've been dropping. They were 26. And there you go. There's 24. Likewise. I will warn. If anybody is going. Wow. That's a lot of money. That's been someone had somebody. That's why planning in the area of the benefits is so difficult for us because if someone says, I didn't use to take benefits. And now I'd like them. And I'd like to be a family plan. That's 30,000 dollars. That gets added. Right. And you guys are not a private business like myself where I can say that's great.
You're welcome to get them through. Yeah. We're contractually obligated. Any other questions on your proposals? I just have one question. I think we've talked about this before that the. Growth in the supplies. I'm sure of it. Was that that was driven by the new curriculum. It or was new curriculum and also preparing for. We've got new teachers starting new classrooms. We had to order supplies for them. Yeah. That's where the over is. And since we don't have a furniture line. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a classroom class. So I know that number's like, where do you go? Yeah. Right. It wasn't. It was like. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. That's why I like. I don't know. Yeah. It's not. It's not. And there were deaths that need to be purchased. And they didn't that kind of stuff. Otherwise, normally you're right. With the. We would. But it also wasn't. We were talking about it all year long is the increase in the supply. For the main in for the for our head custodian. He had nothing when he started. We had to order tools for him. We had to order a bunch of stuff. So that's where that number came from. I really do appreciate this. And like the lines run over throughout the year. So the weekend. I actually see where money is going. Great. I think it makes everything much. Yeah. I'd rather do it at the end of the year. And. And not do it all year long.
We just need to continue this practice. So. So I would assume we need to make a motion to. Yes. To just as anyone else have further questions. Now. I think we're just being emotional. I'm moving. We've. exemptors have areas for them from this evening. Holding baby and ay. Or a post. Hey, Debate six zero. Thank you for putting on your other Naime and. At tension toention with us for. Maybe the point and the knife can just get. your signatures. Yeah, thank you so much. I got all these assumptions. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. I don't be not a judge of this. Okay. Um, we is on a different update. Um, school running now. You guys are. We don't exist anymore. Now we are going to know you change more things.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In terms of how meaningful I think, you know, I'll really have very now the budget passed on. I'm going to move forward with presentation. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Mike about two-fifthly. Sorry to interrupt, but that's what we're counting. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to give you a question. I'm going to give you a question. Yeah. I'm going to give you a question. I'm going to give you a question. Okay. Uh, bathroom projects update. Josh and Jen. Yes. You guys are up. Can you hear me? Yeah. All right. So, how do we want to go about this? Um, yeah. So, I guess. Um, so just of a, like, full transparency to everyone is aware. Um, uh, the plans were shared with a member of our town who works in construction. And he had some feedback and questions. Um, those questions were emailed to Josh. Um, and he did reply with some answers. Um, but we kind of wanted to go through stuff in this setting as well. Um, and then, um, I guess my other thing. And I don't know if we should talk about it before Josh talks or after, um, is I personally feel like this in such a large project. And we kind of. It hasn't progressed as far forward as quickly as it should have. That I really think that we should create a subcommittee for this project.
So that it can actually go or it needs to and get finished. Um, and I know that I need forward support in order to do that. So, I don't know if you guys want to talk about that. First, or if you want Josh to talk about the questions. Different plans. Yeah. Okay. So we'll let you talk about the questions that were submitted. Um, and kind of just an overview of the drawings. If you're okay with that. That's awesome. Um, so do you have the questions in front of you? I do. I do. Valerie does. And Eric, you do? Yeah. Okay. So some people do and some people don't. Um, so for question number one, it says the scope of work to find in the drawing should include original issues that the school bathrooms have. Uh, there should be complete removal of the sanitary drains, galvanized drains, galvanized drains, galvanized vents in the walls and tunnels.
Uh, it's not shown on the drawings. So, um, during our initial design phase, the SD phase, we had a discussion, um, about limiting scope to reduce cost. And the limited scope didn't include removing the galvanized drains in the, or the galvanized vents in the walls. Um, and our scope was to, uh, use the newer sanitary drain that's within the tunnel. The existing sanitary drain that the bathrooms drain to now is within the slab, um, in between where the basement ceiling is and where the new, where the existing rush rooms are. It's not able to be located in the field. Um, I poke my head above the ceiling and the basement and it's not there. Um, so the only other place it could be is within the slab in between those, the tunnel and the basement. Um, so we were going to abandon that sanitary line. And tie into the existing sanitary line in the tunnel, which, uh, seems to be in very, very good condition. Much better condition than, um, what you'd expect for the huge. Um, they also, there was a renovation at some point during, for the other portion of the building with the two restaurants on the other side. And that's their sanitary pipe was used for that as well. Um, so that was our plan there. So then the plan would include like capping off the old one. Yes, and when you find it. Yes. Yes. So the sanitary line now comes through the floor and the toilets are mounted to it.
Um, so when the toilets are moved. The sanitary line would be exposed. We can cap it and then the new flooring will come up to above that. Um, so cap and seal at the floor and then re-finish with new flooring. Okay. And I think I think the concern on that question was really just that in terms of someone bidding on the project like having that part explained because it would end up costing us more money. Yes. That's why it's sort of, yeah. Oh, we're good on that question or do you want me to answer anything else about it? I think we're good on that. Okay. Next question. Although most contracts were assumed this repair. This is required. It's not showing on a demo plan. Extensive saw cutting and poor back of the existing slab. Please add saw cutting limits of the slab within with a detail for poor back. That'll be included in the final set. Um, that'll be issued so that contractors get bit on it. There is very limited saw cutting. So the cost shouldn't be crazy for that. And we'll make sure to limit as much of the saw cutting as possible. Okay. Get on that one. Skope works include new domestic water piping as existing piping is equal in age to the sanitary drainage.
We didn't find it necessary but can discuss this further. We weren't anticipating opening the wet walls completely to repair it replace all the piping. Again, we were trying to minimize the cost impact to the school. So we're using the water lines was a part of our original design conversation. We can have contractors add a little contingency to their bid in order to repair any issues they see within the walls. If there are any, but as far as I know all the fixtures were on and nothing is currently leaking from the walls or, you know, accumulating on the floor. But I guess that that would be up to everybody this decide whether or not they want it replaced or just prepared as needed. I feel like acting contractors have a contingency for like it if it does need to be repaired or replaced with quality.
But I think yes, like conservatively we already know this project is going to cost us a lot of money and no one on this board or in this town is looking to spend an astronomical amount of money to make a brand new bathroom like we know that it's every pair. I guess the only thing I would ask on like some of those questions would be if. Is there a risk that in five years we've suddenly have to pull this stuff out and fix it because then we've really should consider doing it now versus having to read you work. We get an answer to that from a contractor beginning. Well, but I guess from the age that you're seeing like do you know that they're from what you've seen. Do you know generally the life of this type of stuff typically are we at risk of going past the extended life. So for copper piping I'm not really worried about you know that that lasts a very long time. It's just any fittings that might be you know at the end connection. And usually a plumber when when they get a contractor when they get in there and they see something like that you know they usually will will have to replace it. So adding a small contingency to replace valves or fittings at the end of the piping as necessary. I think I think would accommodate that.
You're going on there. Okay. Thank you. Next question the janitor sink. We do have it selected as a formatted sink. I confirm that in our drawings. There is a small amount of stock cutting and again I will add the stock cutting to our final set. Okay. Women's lab sink need to open wet wall and replace drain. This is kind of on the similar discussion we've already had about not opening the walls where we don't need to. And letting the contractor carry a little bit of contingency for any of the repairs that he may hear she may see. Okay. Women's room floor drain. This is required to have a sanitary vent trap primer trap seal. That'll be on the final set out of trap seal to each one of the floor drains. There's also one in the the boys rest room below the urinal that's called out but might not have been seen by the person reviewing this so that's a bigger question. Teachers laboratory open the wet wall same thing. So we're trying to put in a formatted toilet in there so we can go straight through and into the tunnel into that new sanitary line we were previously talking about that's already down there or newer. I should say sorry.
You know what then yeah open slab drain yep that's same thing boys rest room urinals the existing urinals are embedded in the slab which is not shown to be cut. We sanitary general acquire concrete removal from below two by six square minimum will have to be removed drain install. So we can add the sock cutting again to the plan that's not a problem our new plan is to drop down behind the new urinals that we've selected and go straight into the sanitary drain in the tunnel like the rest of the the fixtures here. Good on that one yeah okay boys bathroom laboratory open wet wall again this one. It kind of shares a wall with the teachers restroom and so there might be a little bit of rework there to get the sanitary down into. The tunnel and that wet wall will will be opened and and typing will be routed down that wall so that one will be completely open for us to see. And that would be added to the final set. And the floor drain as discussed previously there is one there it might not be readily visible so I'm just going to make sure that it's more visible for everybody to see.
I think those were all the concerns that were brought up by the person who reviewed all of this which was done just as a favor. I don't know if anyone else has other questions for Josh I guess my questions would be really on and go forward like what point are we at now and what do we need to do to move forward. And we also have other questions aside from that. I would just ask Josh if as you reviewed these questions that I anything come up that you didn't expect or that you got to rethink as you reviewed these. So um actually that that's a good question so we did look at the recirculation and we looked at the requirements for hot water recirculation and the.
The code requirement was 50 feet from the recirculation line and in the existing drawings of the prep pass renovation there is a recirculation pipe within 50 feet of this restroom. Whether or not it was required and or wanted by the school there is a recirculine in the school and as far as we can tell from the existing drawings it is within 50 feet of the furthest fixture. So does that that needs to be moved or it doesn't need to be moved. We should we're it's it's compliant with the code and you know again because we can't see behind the wall we can't see exactly where the piping is. When the contractor comes in there to verify he can just make sure that you know that pipe is where where it says it is on the clients. Okay. We're reading all the other question.
I'm just that if it's not are we going to have a contingency for that. Yeah, I mean, what if it's not I guess would be my one question. That's that is shown on a permit set from a while back so I'm hoping it's in there. We can definitely you know. We we can include. We can certainly include a unit price for extra feet of copper in an excess of what is currently shown on the plans so that and we can declare what that fee would be. Or we can have the contractor offer assuming this is going to bid we have the contractor offer what he would. Charge for on a perfect basis for additional copper piping to reach that location. So that it's nailed down and you don't get into a position where the contractor is now kind of got you over a barrel and. Yes, exactly so so you don't want to be in the middle of construction in the contractor you know rubbing his hands together and saying oh good you know it's not exactly what they thought so we can certainly add the unit prices in there to nail that down in advance so that.
It's a little bit more predictable when you get there. Thank you. So in summary in terms of things that need contingencies it's going to be that right like how close it is to their resurculation. I think if there's piping or fixtures or fittings that need to be replaced for the water lines coming in as opposed to the treated lines. So if you can summary. Yes. Am I missing anything else that needs to have contingency plans written into the existing plans. I don't believe so no I think you you covered it there. Does anyone have other questions. I have a quick question just to clarify and I apologize for asking Josh this in a public forum Josh could you clarify the materials that are going to be used. Oh. Materials for water painting. So well you can we can either use the packs. Or we can use copper. Access more advantageous for price but. Significantly cheaper. Both are acceptable methods it's just what what the contractors going to. Going to bet on. Is there a reason to not use packs. So the structural integrity of pecks is a little bit less but significant cheaper.
And easier to install. Everything about using pecks is actually. You know, yeah, a lot easier to manage. So yeah, a lot of new renovation or new construction is using it uses pecks for for that reason. Flex is acceptable by the code. It's got good longevity. It's certainly not copper. But it is certainly rated for this use. What's the difference in life from pecks to copper. I don't think pecks will last 100 years, but. Let's see. The walls. If you're given a choice of something that is better, but if you pay more for it, or if something is cheaper, it's the last money, but it's not as good. I think what we have to say in the next 100 years, great, I don't think we're going to be, I won't be here. It's a lot more. How much more, like five times, six times as much? It's not like a one to two, correct? Well, from what I'm finding online at PECS plumbing, it lasts around 50 years. If the five zero, five zero. And the cost of that to copper cost is. Depending on the type of installation between 20 and 80% cheaper.
Yeah. Not just the materials itself, but the labor to install it. Yeah. So would we be able when we're acting for bidding to act for pricing for copper and pricing for facts from the contractors so that we can see the two different options. Absolutely. Yes, we can use the copper as an alternate. We'll use PECS as a what they call the base bid and we'll use copper as an alternate. That way you have the option to choose the alternate if you if you want that. And we'll include unit prices for both. Yeah. Depending on which way it goes.
And then is there anything else applied from copper versus PECS that we need to have like asked for. Difference of options between as far as alternate scope. I don't believe so everything else involved is very typical. I don't believe all of those floor drains fixtures. That's I would not anticipate anything else. This is Josh the sanitary piping is PVC. Oh, it's cast. It's cast iron. Okay. Or yeah, it's steel. So what are our next steps on a move forward like in terms of getting stuff to a bidding process or what do we do next. We wanted to have this meeting prior to submitting the actual final bid documents. Now we can with your input here. We can refine our drawings and then submit them to you for final approval.
And then it can be circulated to bid. And we have agreed to help with the bidding phase the CA phase. So throughout this whole process we'll be here to help you answer any questions and request for information from the contractors and review all the submittals that they may have. So that anyone else have more questions. No, okay. So then I guess thank you guys so much for your time tonight and taking the time to answer questions for us. So I guess we would be looking forward to a revised or finalized plans. And then hopefully we can look forward. Thank you, Josh. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. What's the timeframe on the regions for that? I mean, look, so probably about two weeks to get those back. Okay, perfect. All right, thanks everyone. Thank you. Thank you. You mentioned establishing a subcommittee. So do you want to do that and talk about it now? If you're in there or the big documents or what? If you guys are okay with talking about it now, I would like to consider it only because.
You know, the questions that that were asked tonight. I personally like as a homeowner. I've worked with packs and put in text bombing myself, but aside from that, my knowledge of any of this is virtually zero. Bri, I know you deal with like braiding RFPs and that kind of getting RFPs. Yeah, but like you understand the terminology associated with them. I don't like right if we were trying to like, I don't know, start anyone out of me into theology class for school. Like, I mean, I don't know. If I'm not really a hybrid, but I fight them for levels, not with a like your company level is not with essence with like contract and policy. Yeah, yeah, my job description pretty much covers beads and our piece, it's we do have a procedure at the board and the board of the policies and how to Yeah, to run those. It's going to take them on topics of two weeks to get those by now. I think maybe in the interim. Terry, we can work on getting a sample draft of what one would look like for us, who with the input as Josh said that's part of their process for helping us. So, you know, get that together so that when their drawings are done, we'll be able to have a meeting of either the whole board or of those board members that are interested. And by then we have something to actually give you no final drawings, as well as some kind of a template draft of what that are if he would look like, see who's comfortable with that? If the board is not comfortable at that time, then we can
discuss the possibility of having additional person from Barcelona meal, working with us on that, and maybe if we have outside members that are working with us, but at least when we have something to look at, it has something physical to look at. So, we can get that in, you know, going while the final drawings are being put together. I guess my concern or consideration in wanting to have a committee potentially with community members that maybe have more expertise in this area. You know, it's a big project and we want to do right by our school for, for the long haul, right? Like non-profit 10 years, for 50 to 100 years. So, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but my only concern, my only reservation on opening this up to too many outside people is we hired Bosnogia, we're then going to be looking to hire a government company, we are a key process. And I don't want us to keep getting tied up. Like we did this time. You know, it's nice that Eric had reached an out-to-out side person that they had questions that we were able to talk about it, but I do warn a little bit of reservation of, with every time somebody else says, why the question about this? So, I have a question about that. I don't want to undermine the fact
that we did vote to go with an oversight company, Bosnogia. And then when we do that, the RFP in motion, we're going to be deciding as a board, you're going to be deciding to go with a company, will there then be lots about side voices saying, why think this? And I think you should that and I think you should this. So, that is only my only recommendation to consider would be we've already lost a few weeks now because we have gone and made sure that every question was answered, I'm regretful that there were outside people that were interested if this person wants to join that RFP process. I would say go ahead, especially as long as that person's company's not going to be part of the great game of an RFP. So, I think they are valuable to join you because they do have some questions that help you guys get answers to things. But I would be cautious about saying, well, we'll just go find another committee because we do have oversight
going on. I guess my hope was that having a subcommittee for this would make the process move faster rather than waiting for each time we have a board event meeting to end up having another meeting about it to review plans and, like, that they could potentially get to the board and meet more often, and I'm not committed to the board event, but of having to delay the process. Yeah, and of course, I don't have my little blue book in front of me, but when that it, if I recall correctly, there's a section on like large construction projects that does recommend having, yes, so I mean, if that is what is recommended by the state of Connecticut for educational, large-scale construction projects, then I do think that that's what we should. And I can say in the last time that there was a committee like that was when they printed the roof on this board. And that was probably the last major project that it was that happened here. Yep, I am very uncomfortable moving forward just us doing this. We don't have the expertise. Which is why we hired them, but, but even just as a doming form, it can solve. Yeah. They did questions like we just had concerns, air, we can't do this to the sub-angle us. Right in our feet, we, we can't do that. And as Josh just indicated, that's one of the things that's part of the school not our priority. Yeah, that's part of the scope of what they're there for. And it's part of what we're going to help with that. Right, I mean, I've done these are a piece of this before. There's a process and
we're going to file the process. We'll file a lot of policy and we'll follow the state of Rex. I'm very concerned. What are you concerned about? The whole board. And with it, we've always like, on self-tradition and I've had this committee in my book, who is in the construction industry and does this for a living? He raised matters that we need to take into consideration that none of us would have been aware of if we can say some of them, like because Val and I were on the initial meetings with Fosson O'Neill, there were some things that he brought up that were not a part of the school of the project, because we said, we want to reuse what we can because we don't have $600,000. We're not to let it get right. We're working on maintaining or not. But I appreciate and I think I really appreciate his ability to book that the plans and to come up with those questions, because I think it is important. That's why I think we need to have the committee just for this that has people on it that are not just the second of us on this board.
We'll do we need emotion. I think that we do. I'm motion to create a sub-group. Okay. Would anyone like to second that motion? Is there any further discussion on that before we go? Yeah. Of what will the subcommittee consist? I would say that I would like the sub-money committee to consist of at least two members of our board, as well as how many other people that have some sort of expertise in this in this street? To me, editing numbers. Well, that's going to be Kate and I were already on this. You guys had already voted that at the beginning. Yeah. I think we should consider having somebody from the board of select one. I would agree with that as well. Who would have the expertise on the board of select when can do you have expertise in this area? Not really. I mean, I went through playing and building our house, but I wasn't full with the hammer. I was just in the planning of it. Do we know if anyone on the board of select nobody boards to electric shows in commerce or anything
in the field? Just because it's an under here. That's been made. I'm here as the process. Yeah. That's a tough memory. It was more as an engineer. Sure. The electrical engineer. You might not be interested, but I think that would be very appropriate. And that for some was overseeing the building over here after Avery got sick, but I don't think he really knows that otherwise. I've worked on board boards. Yeah. He's already said that if he were asked, he would be interested. That would be to remember. Yeah. So, but it should be what five people, right? Or none, and even the number of people who are not going to necessarily take a vote for this night. No, it's only a copy of it. I'll just say. That would be six people though. Sure. Board of the members. Oh, I did. I did. Yeah. Board of the members. Two other members will ask Murray and Sanderson, and then myself and Tier. Right. So that would be six members. But I'm saying it doesn't have to be an odd number because you're not. Because we're not.
They don't have to be right up. It's just pretty much stuff to do with it. Is there, there's no one on the board of finance that has expertise in this area either? Is there? We have two members right there. You can ask. Joe Anne or Ken? Do either of you know? Is there anyone on the board of finance that has expertise coming and something? It wouldn't be me. That's for sure. But we can find out. I know that build a road. You know, tends to have a lot of expertise in matters of construction and things of that nature. You know, he has weighed in on things of that. So okay. It's an important project. So it's I I want to get it right. You know, and I think, you know, we want to make sure that I would like to have a member on the board of funding and the board of finance on. That's going to be going on and attacking the aid on between the parts we've going to be using for that spending on the taxpayer money for the government. Of course. Can I say one more thing? I think that Jeff Murray is an engineer, correct? He's an engineer who does have a lot of expertise in that. So that was a good call as well. So. And Caitlin, hi, it's Kimberly Trishson. If you're, if you need someone from the board of finance, I would be willing to have to serve on the committee. I have some knowledge of plumbing.
I've had some big major comes coming issues at my house. So I would, I would be happy to work on this committee if you need someone expertise, not social. Yeah, so thank you, Doug. So I think that we need to vote whether or not we're going to yeah, so two things. I'm just trying to avoid what it mean benefit. So I know we have a lot of people in this community. I'm sure there's people out there who have then perhaps the expertise when it comes to these types of things. So do we want to women ourselves to just this bubble or do we extend? I don't know what you call an invitation. And I sounds a lot of people in this town who have, I'm sure expertise on this that could really be beneficial. I would hate to just
contain ourselves to just these few members that would talk in the bus. But the question would be whether or not we want all of these people to be on a committee or whether or not we want the committee to exist and people to interact with the committee along the lines of what that was talking about. Because I did see that with a moving committee many, many years ago. We don't want the party to get held up anymore by the same token we want expertise. But there's a way to have a committee and have interaction with people who would be willing to offer their expertise just like we're having fussing on the old Beard consultants to offer their expertise. That's my, my, my one, with a few. We're going to have a committee. Yeah, let's actually get people who do this. It's hard off. Yeah. Or for real. Yes. I would just hope that even if there's not directly people who do it on the committee that there's some way that we effectively did input from. Or maybe we make the board of selectments and the board of finance people ReaZons and they can be committee members. We just don't want a committee of I don't remember how many we have for the moving. I wouldn't want to see two cumbersome of committee. Let's see how many concerns I would have. Like, we can make sure, obviously, the meetings are always posted. Yeah, committees. So we can make sure that on each agenda, it says, we welcome members of the community who have expertise in the Syrian nation doing us.
We can always put any address in there, true, that says, you know, hey, reach out to us. And so to your point, I think that it is prudent to make sure that those people know these meetings are going on, so that they'll want to come to them. Right. Like, I know that Eric had had a conversation with Eric Sanderson, which is how that kind of morphed into a half some questions. So we would just have to be better. And that's on me because I'm the one that works with Diane to advertise the meetings to make sure that how many agenda it says. If you're interested in in feedback, and you're one of these professionals, please, Diane, all the incident jump to us. And we can also add to the committee, right?
So right now, we're creating committee. Yeah, there's going to be five that there's a need to add to the membership or there's a person who consistently shows up at a subcommittee meeting or committee meeting. Who's expertise, we value. We just bring it back to the board and add to the committee or the committee adds to the committee, I would say. I would also be in favor of publicizing this in the river east, saying this committee's been creating. If you have interest and you have the expertise in these particular fields, we'd welcome you to use it in a letter of interest and then getting. I think we can do that. We just need to have a comment. Of course, of course. I also need to caution you guys because I am familiar with the bid process. Is that we're not going to get this so cumbersome. We're going to lose the integrity of the bid process. If you get too many people on here and people at friends and no, I'm going to bid on this because I'm on. I go somebody on the committee. We have to be very careful about who you choose for the committee. Those who want to see old bids and will be open by one person.
Yeah, no. I know a hundred hundred percent. And just though that everyone in clear Eric Sanderson is the person who agreed to this stuff and wrote all those questions. He had been asked prior to tonight. If he could come tonight, wasn't able to attend tonight. But he said, if he were asked, he would be interested on being on a committee for such. And that he would obviously it would be a conflict of interest and not that on the project. So just a little bit that's clear. That needs to be. That is exactly what we talked about. Yes, thank you. The only other. Sorry. Based on what I'm hearing. People want expertise input. But they don't want to get, but we don't want to get about down injury. It seems like my father had to say too many cooks well soup. Yep. And if you start getting one footing expertise. Yep. What do you want to do? Do you want to write cooks? Yeah. Exactly. You want to write cooks? Well, that's why we have personal meals or consultants. Right. My home renovation business. I told my word. Wonderful. Wonderful. I will be tough. Yes. So I still think that just right. As I go forward, we need to have a vote. That's what I'm not worth reading. I think so. One more thing. Just like just like the specific purpose of the kind of just to be clear about.
And what that's going to be. So let's. Before we go, I feel like we should know exactly. Yes. And how long the committee is existing for. And what their purpose is. I think it has to clear. But is it together information feedback for to take the votes over. See the budget right because that's now. We have somebody that oversees that. And I don't want to skip on down to. And I think that every time a decision is made, he has to be going on about that. So for many about. For education. Yeah. So I think. I mean, I would.
I would. Hope that the committee would exist until the completion of the project. Yes. Right. Not just the bidding process. Yeah. And then what else did you say? You said what there. What the. What the purpose of the committee is. I see that information got right. Nothing. Nothing more than that. Because all of the decisions should be made. On the. The seven. The arena. Yeah. Me. That's the idea. It's a clear purpose of information gathering. Yeah. Reviewing proposals design plans. Reviewing time plan wise material choices. And monitoring progress. So that. So that we're not spending our monthly meetings for an hour. Doing just on the bathroom project. Yeah. But it's the that include them like them. Like reporting out and giving where recommendations. Yes. Yes. I think that everything. I think that the board members from the Board of Ed work on that would give us that report on a monthly basis. And we would just add that to our liaison reports at the committee. Great. Well, we moved the question with the motion. I was a wounded. I have a sense. Okay. So revotion Eric seconded and then my added a whole bunch of stuff that is very important to say about it by the reasons for it in committee.
All in favor of creation of this committee as presented. I. I. Any opposed. Okay. Thank you guys. I think it's I think it's really important as a go forward. I think we need to do that and that staff for. Are there board members? I think we need to do that and that staff for. Are there board members? I'd like to be on that committee. Now that we have created it. I know you're looking at me. Don't know. I don't know. I will be honest. Just took on. A new role at work. And I'm about to start. By our year be a process and my research. So I'm a little bit overwhelmed right now. It's okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. But. There's no. The. My. Very. I've. I've. Zero. Experience. Any. I'm always willing to help. But I'm. I'm. I'm. You know, but you know who you are. Is you're the person that quietly listens to everyone. And then things of the five things that everyone forgot. You are always that person. Which I think is really critical. Thinker. Yes. And then he comes up with the big questions that we completely forgot about. I'm more than happy to. Help. I think it's great. You would be willing. I think that would be awesome. So we're. We're more than happy to read proposals from you get them.
Get that. And tell us on. We have a lot. Yeah. I think we'll all contracts. We're. There we go. Okay. Great. I still. I think. Okay. Anything else on bathroom projects. We're done with that for now. Okay. And then Mike and Eric. I think you guys can talk about later about. We're going to go forward with like. Other community number. It's like that. I don't know. Yep. So the project update. Ryan. You're so here. Thank you for staying with us. Everyone. How are you? Okay. Ryan. Just so you know, I did just give them all the copy of what you guys said. Let me. For the draft for the event. Okay. Okay. Okay. So you're. Um. Yeah. The draft. Have you been through it? Like, have you seen it more than just right now? Yeah. Okay. What are you talking about? Going. Yeah. Would you mind just going through it with us? Kind of to talk about the things that are. Yeah. Absolutely. And I think just a quickly read. Um, we. We had the town referendum. I believe in early March. Um, where the town was. Um, became partied to the agreement through the referendum. Yeah. Yep. So the purpose of this amendment was to add the town as a signatory. Um, alongside the Board of Ed. Um, and then there were a couple other items with during the townbeating. Um, that were voted on and incorporated into the cement. Um, so this.
This EPA amendment. Um, does a pretty good job capturing all of those. Those stipulations. And I could, um, I could go through it here. But, um, just quickly to speak at a high level. Our green sky's attorney has reviewed this and has. Didn't really have any issues with it. Um, there were. Uh, there was a couple sentences that they changed red line and. Send back to the Board of Ed council. Um, for review. I think it's meant runally. Um, yeah. Yeah. Um, so yeah. The major. Major items here is one again. The. The town and the Board of Ed are our. Our singletories on the. This agreement in any any type of contract solar related. Moving forward that has to do with the school building. Uh, they'll. They'll be part of that. Um, and that that was fine on the green sky's on. Um, let me just go through this. So, when you look through it, it looks like the first thing that's really like a major change from what was presented to you guys is the schedule for estimate of fair market value and early for minnation. And then there's just an like an appendix for schedule for that shows the value in terms of when it would be terminated. Yeah, so in the event that the school or or the town in this case wanted to own the project. Um, we've never seen that happen before out of all the pp contracts we do, but when we go to finance this project, the lender needs.
Um, they need a termination schedule just in the in the rare event that were to happen. Um, so what what the lender requires really not so much green skies is that. Um, the it needs to be at the purchase price needs to be at fair market value. Or what's seen in that early termination schedule, whichever is high. Um, so that's essentially what the town was asking for. Um, however, we needed to show that baseline, which is in schedule for what the lender expects the value of it to be in a fair market value comes in higher than that. Um, then that would be the purchase price and they event the town wanted to buy the system. Other, um, other items that were included, included examples of, uh, they're being over.
The green skies has to do a structural analysis of the roof and provide that to the town prior to install. That's something that we've already completed and will be sharing with the town when we submit for permits. Another pretty big item was the small portion of the roof that isn't under warranty. It's currently a ballastive roof system with with a loose stone on top of it. Um, because it's not under warranty the town during the town meeting voted to. Um, prohibits solar or any equipment to be installed on that portion of it. We vote on that as a town meeting. Excuse me. We didn't actually vote on that at the town meeting. That was written into the amendment that you were sent by the. The. Selectman by the town's attorney. But that was not something voted on at the town meeting. Got it. Okay. Yeah. I must have there were a lot. Question. So I must have missed that. So, but this was for so that stipulation was provided to us by. By the town, we have this amendment. And we, we were. We're okay with that and. You know, from a green sky's perspective, it's. We realize that we're timing this is why it took a while to. We agree to this was that it definitely is probably an arbus interest as well as a town's and the board of ed. That we don't install a solar on that roof without a warranty. Just because if if two years from now, it's determined that a new roof needs to be put on.
Um, due to leaks or or whatever it's. You know, the the cost of the equipment that we would be installing on there. We're going to remove that relocate it and then replace it. It would just be a significant cost that would likely. Um, invert this PBA rate to a point where it just wouldn't make. It wouldn't really generate any savings for the school and it puts our project that risk as well. So we is something that we were able to agree to internally. So it's in there. It's not red lines and we we accepted it. Um, and I think that was definitely one of the bigger bigger. Um, bigger items that the town police was focusing on. And when we get the preliminary layout as you have on I think this has page eight. Just so everyone's clear the the portion of roof that that's not on. It's it's the part that's like off to the right that's kind of like by itself. That's correct you. Yeah. Yeah. But with an understanding of that which is the savings funds. We're up to six to five years to seven. Yeah. So Valerie was just saying that that does reduce the savings from about 16,000 to about 7,000. But. Yeah. I think it's it's 7,000 in year in year one on average. I think it's. I think it's much more than that just because as everyone is aware that. Tailor rates this on an annual basis constantly are going up. So we're proposing, you know, fixed rate, but it is, you know, less production.
Obviously because it's less less less risk roof space for us to build on. But it is I think in the long term, it's it's probably a smart idea for everyone for us to avoid that section. Because they just could become very costly. And I think the other last outstanding outstanding item was just the roof warranty. Manufacturer is Carlisle and it's our green skies as a responsibility to ensure that. To work beginning, we have Carlisle and or a representative from their company come out. We'll do a free inspection of the roof. Make sure that there's nothing that's outside of warranty currently. Then they'll come post solar installation and give us a bunch of those of items that we need to complete in order to ensure your warranty remains in place. You currently have 21 years left on your warranty.
And our solar project is a 20 year term so it does does work out really well in terms of time. Great. Does anyone have any other questions about this amendment as it's presented. So I make a motion to accept the second amendment to the solar power and services agreement as presented. And dated June 11th with the recommended changes made by our attorney and one additional change to correctly spell the first name of our chairperson on the board of education. And move it forward to the board of software. It's on this way. Oh, I didn't look there. Well, yeah. That's fair. Okay. All in favor. Hi. Hi. Thank you. Thanks. Thanks. Have a good night. Thank you. You're not more. Not for his. No, not for solar.
Oh, it's out here. That's Jerry seconded it done. Yeah. So I just want to make sure that anybody else who's watching just realize that we did accept it. I'm not saying we shouldn't, but does realize that we did accept it with the lower number of solar panels. Because when this happens with budget season next year that first year, we won't see a decrease because this year we were over by 10,000. And so I definitely want to make a note on that just because that first year with that only 7,000. We will probably have to count anymore. Oh, no. So we would have to continue for the first couple of years to kind of stay where we are before we really start to see a savings. So I just wanted that. So that everybody knows. Yeah. So now that we've accepted that's the way that it's written. It'll get finally revised and then the board of software needs to accept that as well. It would be the next step forward. So we will. Hopefully. Their their lawyer has a copy of this as well. Yes. Do we know if Dennis has a copy of this. I will copy of that. No. Okay. Okay. Of what's in front of you? Yeah. Okay. Just got to be able to. Right. We're ready. Okay. So that means our term is approved. It means guys is approved. Our board of education has approved. Like now. Let's put them to the final approval. Okay. Back. On the next thing to discuss. It's important.
And I know it says retreat on here. Honestly, like professional development and or for me, the thing that's most important is us setting board event goals for the next coming school year. Yes. I know that. Val that have. I think sent out to survey for. For times. What was it called? Did it open? I do. Yes. Unfortunately. It's probably me more than anyone else. The one week where there were like six or seven times. I have gone that entire week. That's like when I'm on vacation. Um, so I wanted to ask people. Um, is anyone not going to be present for our July board meeting. That's the right. Right. Just to make sure you have the ready. Whatever the second process. I will not be there. I will be. Okay. Far away from me. And anyone not going to be present for our August board meeting, which is August 13. Is anyone not going to be present for the August board meeting. Okay. So I would have proposed. If people would be okay with it to do what was in the last year, which was to meet at 4 p.m. And do like three hours. Meeting into the board meeting. So we could just like set our goals for the upcoming year. So those will be like amended and changed on our agenda. When we start like for this. It's a tender.
Thank you. Meaning. Uh, if you will. Um, I did check with the last prior to this meeting. She's not here tonight. That she can attend to that in August. So I just can be really good if we can get everyone to be here for that. If you guys could do 4 p.m. We're the August to be. We don't have somebody who came. If you like sure. I think we it would be great to have someone to help moderate flush facility. Yes. Yes. And I'm really bad with people names. But there was someone who was really good. Like two years ago. It was a guy. And it went when you were sick. And we were at. Yes. Yeah. He's very good. Patrice is also really good. Yeah. Um. I like Jodi. Um. Me. Yeah. First one. Okay. Um. So everyone's okay with that. And then we'll do 3 p.m. Work well. Yeah. Another team. Okay. Um. Do we need to. If you talk about it, but you don't have to, you know, you know, you don't have to. And then it's emotional. All right. It's not like an official event on it update. It actually two different things. Um, audit update is the like the town on it. This lovely one. That was competed in the center of the state. Um and it's also ziem. It update for our policy review that was done in terms of what we do on a steps forward. So let's talk about the policy review first. First, we all got a copy of that on awesome giant blue paper last time.
Yes. All right. I'm not. Yeah, no, because nobody has wild boulders. They don't fit this step anymore. It's great. So you need a hard note here. Yeah, that hurts that way. OK. Oh, so if it did, it was not given to me. And I've checked about that. But I'm fine. We'll have to get you another copy. But then I'll go to the website. If you want to look at it, we'll get you another copy of that. So they went through all of our theories. Hi, so those through I in terms of sections. And then they kind of gave us a summary of how many policies they're missing, how many are data that we need to revive. How many band data policies are missing. I feel like, I mean, a lot of things are dated. And we just need to review them and update the date on things. There were, I circled F and G as the one that have the most mandated policies that are missing, and the most that we need to provide. Oh, it has to do 5,000. Ah, 5,000 is 6,000. For mandated policies and everything. But in terms of like, to revise, yeah, it's four or five
effects are the most, which I like. I like the way they say stuff out. Yeah, it's very the career. It's very wonderful, because it's a so much information. Yep. So I guess question is on a go forward. How do we address achieving what we need to? Well, I think we need to start off with the missing mandates. Because those are a number of them. And if they're mandatory, we should have policies on them. Those are 18. So do you want to go through by series or no? I have the same dilemma that you had of, which, how do you do it? Do you do it by? No, I think we just, we go by, yeah, as far as where we start off. Yeah, we go by theory. They're going to go by mandated things. Nothing. I think we should, oh, excuse me. I think we should start off with all the mandatory that are missing and go by series and then go back. Oh, in other words, I think the most important is the mandatory policies that are missing. That's where my head is at, too. That would have been mandatory. I think that I'm coming back to revisit series. Like for more practices and all that stuff, yeah. So if I could just weigh in all of that, that would not work. Be, because I'm halfway through doing this with my other dish. That sounds like it's easier to do it that way, but it's actually not because if, as a board,
you look at your own policies and let's say A is mandated and soliciting, but you have the missing stuff in BCMD. Now you're going to have to go through the whole section to say, well, we are missing the mandated one, but it's in our other policy in there and there and there. So we actually thought that that was going to be easy when you're doing it. It wasn't, it was easier to go in one bit. Well, I guess they before we include it. Yeah, because because if you look at their chart going across, the other problem is my predecessor utilized of shipping and good ones policies a lot. Yep, so when you, that was just pushing foot forward. It doesn't matter if you ship with a cave, but in some of these, it'll say appropriateness, based on a cave model, requires codification, athlete go up dates, and don't even need a net chart. Yep, so if the woman is mandated, that's missing. If you take the cave model, the cave model might not match up with the rest of them in that series, and then you're looking at the whole series, anyways, to do the one mandate that you're missing. Does that make sense? Yeah. So we learned. We did learn. Thank you, Scotland. Yes, we did learn the hard way, and we chose just one section to start with. And we actually then chose an easier section so that the board could get a
kind of use to that process of looking through what's in that section. And oh yeah, now I get it. If it's here, it doesn't have to necessarily be added or deleted or whatever, it's just, you know, we can use them a cave model. So that is my suggestion based on that, just simply because our current policies are both shipment and cave in this district, because one of the times that you guys went through before as a board, I don't mean this board, I mean as a district, it's inspired me. They were based on shipment, and they're all fairly similar. Some of the other mandate is ones that are missing, that we will put in there during the course of this, by the way. They don't necessarily apply to an elementary school, but they're required, right?
So you're going to see that, but that's why the student section here looks so bad, like while we miss a lot, because boards prior to you guys, if they weren't mandated, didn't have them in there, and if they didn't apply to a pre-case six school, right? So we were finding that too when we started looking through, we were like, oh, okay, it's required, it has to be in here, but it doesn't really apply to us, so we will just take the language of the cave model as is, and what it did there. So I actually talked to Danyan about this, because Danyan's been here,
longer than all of us with the boards. So she's been 20 years upstairs doing this stuff. Thank you Danyan, and it looks like the 2000s, we're probably, if we're looking to get our feet wet on this one, the easiest is not necessarily an easiest channel, but the one that probably is the most simple in terms of the corrections that they need to be padded to these, so that's why she copying these for you, and I agree, actually, that this is probably the best one for us to start this summer with. Can I ask about that? And when did you guys start doing it and how far are you through? We're into, so the first section that they are going through is the 9,000s, which is just longer, so you know, it just is. So we've done two sections of the 9,000s. I mean, if you notice there, you guys are lucky here that you have no missing mandates, there's only three recommended ones, but if you look at what's listed here on those pages, we've got two very full pages, so they have to go through that one because that was just for them, for different reasons. And I don't want to, it was, quote, easiest one for them. I'm just curious, like, how long, how long do you think I'm going to speak out to get? So for example, we tried to do some of this. Oh, please, you did. Like that's what I'm trying to do, right? I know, no, but actually, you guys are not that often, you know, when I look at page four, but it's 10, 70% of our followers, either.
All right, all right, all right. If you look at page four on this long page, guys, like see this long chart, if you look at page four here, and I'm on that very long page four of the other pages, like getting a sales rate, she was five ways. Yeah, if you look at that, it says series 2000 administration, and it lists them all there, it says mandated policies, lacking none, good practice, or, and then if you look at that chart up there, there's only one exit in the middle where it says add and or update legal references to the policy 2151. Yep, and then if you looked far to the right, the last time a board did go, you know, did go through this. It was Shannon, we was my second year. Well, I tried it out when Shannon started doing those, and they were updating in 2022.
So this section's actually a good section to start with, then check the box on, and when I give you, Diane was nice enough to print them out, because if you go on our website, you could look at them one at a time. Yeah, but you have to click each one. So this way, you have a copy and front of you of all of the ones that are listed there. So this right here that I just handed you, you need to explore those 2000s. So the only thing you would need, and I'll give that to you, would be to look at those four recommended ones, and to look specifically at 2151, which legal reference needs to be added, and then the rest of them are just review. So when you say how long, if we had a meeting where you decided
on those four recommended ones, and added the legal reference, if you reviewed what I just gave you, and the conversation, and this is kind of how they did it, which worked, was at the next meeting that they had, was they said, okay, we're going to go through these. If there's one that you think needs to be visited, because you don't like the language, or whatever, stop us, and they went through, and they would say, you know, 2111. Anybody? Anybody? And if people said no, I think what we have is fine, and it did require they said, okay, we'll put to the side. They'd go through the next one, someone said, oh, there's something I don't like about 2121. We moved to another pile. And at the end of that meeting, there were the right piles. Yes, these are the five that we would like to count as reviewed, changed the date on the bottom, and passed tonight. And then they would do it. And then everybody would look at just those ones, where they're like, I don't like this. And so it made the process easier, because you are accepting the ones that don't need any change, and those dates, and you are looking at the ones where everybody says, we need a discussion on this. So I think to my point earlier, we said, we don't want to have a home meeting, where you guys then will not be sitting here reviewing for the very first time,
every single one of them that does just certainly need to be visited. Does that make sense? A lot of them. They really did work for them, and it's going well. Okay, so we're not going to restate this. So if we're doing a 2000 series in July, yep. I would read, goes 2000, identify if I have any changes I recommend. Yes. We discussed it at the July meeting. We call it, we can discuss, call it the ones that we think then. And we say yes or no. That's now. Yes, ones with no changes. We approve the no ones, though. No ones is where you guys have to have that conversation of, you know, Eric, what would you like to see different in this? Why is this language not good? And then if there are changes made to that, you can make the changes that night, but then the next meeting would be your second read on it because you'd be changing it. And you would only change if we had to have to read because that's we had to have a second read for all policies. Oh, not if it's just so revealing.
We've got to have that first read when we're saying change or not change. And I don't say nice things, say we want to. Normally a policy is too read to read. But if you're just reviewing it, I will look that up for sure. But I do believe that if you're just reviewing it and nothing is changed. It's reviewing. It's as in there's no changes that believe those. But I will double check. Yeah, I will too. I believe that that is, you can't just be changed. Because all you're doing that on the bottom is same. I think the debate. Right, reviewed on June 11, 2025. Yep, right because of date. But that's if it's just to shift its point. That's if zero changes are being made. Yeah. Even if we're adding, like they recommended here, a new legal reference that would have to be the second read. Right. So, so every month they would come up, what I'm telling you, it actually kind of does go quicker. Right. But I will make sure you have copies so that you don't have to click on each individual one of each section. Thank you.
Because that's a pain that we're trying to fix. Right. I don't know. It is the worst. It is. Right. I have to guess. It's the most pain-savingly awful gardener problem. Which is why I absolutely fortunate it out for you, because it is Purdue to break a click on each one out there. And I've talked to East Kyle working out that this time. All right. Right. Well, I'm taking into this way, the way. Yes. This is, if you look up there. No, absolutely. That's quite in the dot-end office. Yep. And yet it's on the website, but on the website, you have to click on each one of these pages separately. And so that's why I said, John, you have to be like a download folder of four million. Yeah, all in all of it. Yeah. That fixed that. Yeah. So that one is totally out of the scroll. Well, we're even like a pdf with like a table of contents, but yeah, true, true, true. Yeah, true, true. That's great. So I saw two thousand. Yep. I do think that's easier. That's model. You guys like to do what we're doing. We got kind of a B plus on that section. So the wise will start with that section. Is it the one that you're close before? We did. We wanted to do five. We did. So thank you. Welcome home. We'll do that for the latter, yeah. Yes. Yeah, that's great. I gave you a phone call. Thank you. Oh, thank you. All right. So that's odd. Number one is the policies. So then we'll review the 2000s for July. So if everyone can look through this in your spare time for.
It's just time for a meeting. If there are any questions in reading through it, that people want me to find the answer for you. I think if that's my most, because it's like 90 pages. And where we are with it, it's done. It's submitted to the state, the board of finance, and the board of select man will review it, individually after that. I'll talk to you about it. Oh, I don't. You have done that. Yeah, we have that. You're okay. But I need you to tell me if you have questions on that. Because on this, we're not just by the answer. Oh, yeah, because we're talking about the policy. We're talking about the policy. I'm talking about it. I've got to stand here, or it's not the only one. I'm trying to find it. Oh, God. Sorry. I don't know. Sorry. Who did? He did. Okay, so the town on it. Yeah. She's talking about. So I got submitted to the state already. It's fine on it. It's fine on it. I don't like to have submitted to the state. Yep. The corrective action plan is being worked on right now. That is a joint effort between the town and the school. For anything that, you know, the governor needs an explanation for. I then wind up submitting to the Connecticut State Department of and Eric on the town side submits to the state on his side. And so that's where it's one of the corrective action plan
or any citations that are in there. And so we are in the process of working on that now. And it is like the same 90 pages. So if there's any specific questions that people have, please let me know because if I don't have the answers to them, I will have to get them for you. Does anyone have specific questions about it on it? When is the presentation? Does that been said? I believe Joanne, can you correct me if I'm wrong? You guys are doing a presentation for the audit at your regular board meeting, which is the 25th and I'm wrong on the date. No, you're correct. We wanted, um, yeah, we decided to have the auditors present to us at our next
regularly schedule meeting, which is two weeks from tonight. 7 p.m. we decided that it is going to be a virtual meeting. That was the majority of the board. We had a small meeting tonight and that was decided. So yeah, that's when it is. Thank you. Thank you so much for that update. So I would say if you guys can, then that would be great. So we'll look forward to their meeting for the formal presentation and review. Maybe they could say, are you going? Maybe they could say, be questions for that meeting. Yeah, yeah, if you guys have questions and you're not going to find you can definitely email them to me. I can ask them for it now. We have to look at our approved budget, um, just to review in terms of what was, um, what our initial budget was and then what was actually passed at referendum, um, it's a, uh, a little. Whether it was 16. Um, so the original budget was, uh, four million pre-inter in 48,000, fifty eight dollars, 92 cents. Um, no. Oh, that's fine. Sorry, 25. Um, four million seven dollars in 29,155, twenty-five, and then, um, we did have that decreased, um, five out, three percent, so that the, the new total, um, would bring us down to four million five hundred and sixty five thousand six hundred and ninety nine and sixty cents. Six six six seven. Yeah, I'm a teacher 30 years. Yeah, yeah, um, so roughly we need to decrease our budget by about 163,000. Correct. Um, I spent a lot of time last Tuesday of trying to go through the budget to see
you like what things we could decrease, um, without, you know, having it be, um, an educational expense to our kids or having to get rid of teachers, um, that we desperately need, especially with a six grade class size at 27, we're like right on the edge of meeting. So I have another classroom anyway, um, I talked with, um, Eric in terms of, like, how much diesel we bought from the town and like, if he had a rough estimation of what next year would be, he said we needed to have at least 13,000 in our budget. And I think that was at like, 15. Okay, yeah, because they gave us a number of six teams. I was in, for this year. Yeah, you know, so I just write like it's really like going and timing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like a couple thousand dollars. Yeah, what ways are another? Yeah, um, and then I did talk with Val and talk with Terry, um, in terms of like, what could we do that were bigger items to to find that money? So the printout that's here, um, is Terry going through and trying to see where where we could find bigger amounts of money from, um, I think the biggest one, um, is
transportation, um, so if you look at it's on, it's on page three. Um, people, biggest one is the very first line we teacher. Yeah, I know I'm skipping that for a very long time. Okay, I don't mind that one. I've never heard about that. You say the biggest one, sorry, yeah. Sorry, the biggest thing that I left. It doesn't directly affect children's instructional time. Excellent, thank you. Would be transportation. Um, and that looks at so 2024 actual expenditure was roughly 103. The budget for 2025 was 137. And so we made the budget for 26 the same as 25. Um, our actual expenditures so far this year. Do you have that? Is I'm done? I'm sorry, thanks for your attention. Oh, it's on the project. I got it. I have this all written out on a sticky note, but I lost some of those sticky notes. I have a problem with sticky notes. There's sticky notes.
All of this. Well, they stick to somebody. I said, I don't know the number. It was the rest of the thing. Yeah. If I turn, yeah. Well, remember, I'm not done paying. I know, but in terms of like, but yes, we were, we, I mean, we, we had a surplus there. 94 and 94 and 26. Yeah, 85. But our surplus, yeah, so that is that last number there. Yes. So that's why it was recommended that we reduced that line by that. So I'm out. Great. Because it's a nice big number. So before we cut though, I have a question with the enrollment going the way it is. Do we think we are going to need a fourth bus? So, well, to answer that, we won't know. We won't know. However, remember, whatever you guys are cutting tonight, you are cutting to balance the budgets, you are not saying it's, it's an expenditure that we will not have. So the understanding is that with these expenditures come up, that is what you will have to use that you present on lots of things. So, if that happens for you, and that's a great point. If that happens, you're not going to say, we're not going to run that bus. But remember, you're 2% non-lapsing is yours to use for things that are not in the budget anymore. Oh, thank you. So you would vote to have that bus, and you would vote to say that it's coming out of the 2% at the end of
the year when we over-expect. And so that's why this process is both easy and difficult. It's difficult because you have to figure out what to take out as Caitlyn said, and not have it directly about the kids, you know, and hope. But there is some money in that account if you need to use that. So, it's not like you'd be without that ability to do that. But makes it a little bit easier as we get a little bit easier, yeah. And I think so, right? Like reducing that by 50,000 is probably slightly more of a reduction than what the actual will be, since we're at like 120 something for this year. But if we go through the rest of stuff, it's one area where we could take money from. So then, if you look at the page, if you can't be poor that in the 340 and the lock by parent, the lunch program, health and you explain exactly how that works again. Yes, so the way the lunch program works is, and we'll take the last 10 years. We, we partner with poverty food services and countries of wonderful partner of ours. I can't give them enough food rooms because they, honestly, and transparently, have two buckets. They have a bucket for poverty and they have a bucket for and a row of entry school. And so they put all of our expenses into our bucket, but they also put all of our revenues into our bucket. And they say, sure, you guys have to pay, the kids will be born.
Sure, you guys have to pay part of the director. But we share with them that crap. You have to pay part of this, you have to pay part of that. But in the end, we're not looking to like, make a ton of money off you guys. We're looking at a shared service with you. And so when we look at that, continue to keep taking out wall of your expenses, but putting in your revenue. So when you have extra money that comes in through the free and reduced lunch program, it goes into our bucket, they don't take that for us. When we sell lunch to our kids here, when our parents pay, from lunch for our kids and for snacks, it goes in that bucket. At the end of the year, if our expenses are not covered with a revenue that comes into our bucket, we get a bill. And so pre-COVID, the number that need to stay in the budget was $20,000 to make sure that that was the highest ceiling of where we had gone over before.
Does that make sense? During COVID, we actually made enough money because they were giving reimbursements for free and reduced lunch of much higher rate than they had been pre-COVID. So all of our expenses were covered, and we were so lucky at the time. Again, the Covetry said, get over that's your money to spend, as long as it's spent on kitchen stuff, you're good. And we were able to do some things in the kitchen, you know, in a stolen refrigerator. Now, this year, we already know that thanks to parents who do pay full price, thanks to the other revenues that have come in for the kitchen for snacks for teacher lunches and things, we anticipate the end of the year not using that again. So if you were to move from there and say, okay, transfer great. So let's take it out if we need to take money at the end of the year and pay that bill from the two percent, we will if we don't need to, we're good. So that is a very safe bet if you want to do that right now, but I would caution you emptying it out to zero. Because remember, I didn't lie in this budget that you empty out
to zero, any line that you have to out to zero. When you have to put it back in next year, it's a 100 percent increase and there may be town people that don't understand that. They're going to look and say, oh my gosh, whether it's all hundred dollars or twenty thousand, you have a hundred percent increase in the lunch line, what's going on there. So I would caution on any line that you change, not to make the whole life disappear. Even if you're attending a taking out the two percent, it's just that's a difficult thing to explain to people. But in terms of a trend, like reducing that, it's the safe bet if you had to do two thousand, we're probably okay to do it. So that gets us to about 65,000, right? Other things that I personally went and looked at, and I know Val's not going to like me saying this, but I looked at the cost of our heating oil and like what our contracted price was and what our
cost has been growing the past seven or eight years in a row and what our budget in cost was. It's a gamble to say to take money away from that because you never know what the weather is going to end up being in the winter. Well, plus we already know we went over on electricity this year, and we're using that. And it sounds like the solar isn't going to reduce our electricity costs. I don't know, so I would definitely not take from the oil. We are all ready and it's not, but I don't like it that way. We are all ready for a very good price of oil for next year. And if you remember, you know, this, if you had, it was a fairly mild winter in terms of the oil that we do. Plus, I will remind you that the one factor we don't control
is it's not like we could say like we do at home. Well, put out a sweater on it. But you're a new loss this year and that I need to have that mandate us to keep the building at a certain temperature, which is an awful winter. And they will increase their house at 63. And no, and Taylor is the one that would get those phone calls from teachers this year on Jordan. And that says to pulled in here. The other thing about that is that is part of that is a town expense that we incur. We spend almost $11,000 a year just to heat the gym. And so, if this year, yeah, just to heat the gym. So, if this year there's a lot more basketball, there's a lot more pickleball, a lot more people using that gym and the heat is on and electricity is on. We don't want to deny anybody using it, but that's out of our control. Hopefully, just fans will help. So, it's okay, it looks right. And I appreciate it, but see why? Because that price is so good right now because we have the consortium that allows us to have a good price on oil, but I think that one's really risky. I just don't, I really don't like
taking one away from pitch one. Oh, but I will tell you on pitch one, I'll tell you on pitch one. I will tell you on pitch one, there's the other thing. And I'm fleeting my case. If grants come in, I am 100% more likely to get a grant that covers a partial salary. I will never get a grant that covers oil. So, I need to understand, even with like, if I do miraculously get this after school program next year, any additional resources can be put toward those lines, I can't put oil in them. I just can't. So, I'm begging you not to school program on foot, I'm full. I'm too familiar with you, I'm too familiar with you, I'm literally begging you not to test that, I have a little reason. Because that one is so we've got to hold about 2,000 sanctions, the little easy ending up. Because the reason I'm saying you said five, I'm saying two, is it easy to get us to do? I have to get us to do it, it's easy. I'm not going to get us to seven. Get us that to five from there. Okay then. I take 3,000 away from these though. safely. I don't mean all control they come out for diesel. If they have a contract with price, you know me that, along with like what it is. But that might have happened before plus, because the diesel is for the bus. I was, oh no, not here, it's not. Is it? I'm sorry, it's the van. I'm sorry, I think it's the van. It's the van. It isn't the only thing
that goes in, it isn't just diesel, it's the new generation of the van. We get built for the use of the van. Yeah, it's something town. Yes. Yes. They don't let us use the van. They don't let us end it to the end of the free. No, we know that it's different. I was in my special ad transport. I don't know. The special ad transport is literally just to pay people to drive. Hey, the person, the pay the person to drive. Okay, it is and then vehicles all. Vehicle is under diesel. So Erin's estimation for that is probably not accurate, because well, that is just given you the actual diesel number and not the right. Yeah. Okay. And just to point out to like Valerie said, like we had, we had some some grants that offset our teacher salaries this year. And and I'm hoping that we will have hopefully the same, or I don't know, around the same fingers crossed, right? So I'm not as worried about that line because of those grants. Okay. Well, we're going back to the first page that leaves us with the point two percent increases to multiple specials teachers, right? Yes. Music are not music. She's full
time. Who is our span of service? Have our span of library? Yes. So is the the 78 942. That's just two. That's point four. That's point six. That's off. Wait six. What's under library salary done? Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, you're right. Point two. Point four. And then it wait two. I did you. So I'm sorry. The total teacher reduction is points. Right. But that one. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I was at. I was 78. 942 is point four. Correct. And then to yes. And how if we decrease that, how does that affect the students? Okay, go to two percent if they don't
do grandkids. Right. If we run over, if we will use the two percent on lapsing or request. So yeah, it's roughly 100,000 dollars. I'm just saying like that's off taking 100,000 dollars from the two percent. Right. Okay. There's only a 250,000 if we get it accurately. Yes, I guess. Yes. And to say, yes, here's a helpful. Yeah, I just worry about the special and I'll like if you have an out placement and that's like 150,000 dollars, please. It's one hundred. That's right. And that's why a two percent non-lapsing has been utilized in the past for those old-specting games. And yeah, that would provide all the way down is it's scary. Yeah. Yeah. I have a couple of ideas. We don't have a line of credit. I have a line of credit for my business. What do you think? Yeah. Yeah. I would like us to take a look
at the management schools. Why not? I don't. So it's budgeted at 18 grand. We spent six and change last year. I don't know. Yeah. I thought I got the rate of this year. It's seven something to seven year. So I would like to see that reduced by about 10 grand to match actuals. Yeah. Well, taking advice from the administrators here. But that's another, yeah, in my sixth factor. I appreciate that. But that's another one. Like, I didn't even know we had two out place students in magnet schools until when you don't have to place students. Yeah, magnet schools. Means that a family has decided to choose to go to a magnet school. Yes. Those students actually that are placed there now, they moved to and over. They attended there. They have never even been registered here. Right. That's why I think at the very, the first meeting that we had for the budget season in the gym, I did point that out to people that might far budget here is all of our students. Plus, any and over resident students that attend those charter magnet schools, we get the bill for on a bat. I'm waiting to end out placed students. Are there other students that you would anticipate may also attend a magnet school next year that we are not currently paying. So we never anticipate these if you don't know what I will tell you this. I mean, like if they have other, yes, I don't know how you did. I believe that may this year would one of the magnet students did surprise us with a simply we didn't know existed. And I will
tell you without giving too much information that the ones we know about now are in grades less than grade four. So we'll be paying those tuition. The other thing that I don't know if this is true or not that I will warn us of is if a magnet school, hypothetically, or a charter school decides that there are additional services that are needed for those students we get a bail together. And I will tell you on a holidays on now, we do know that there is one child that currently attends a school other than Anna Rom entry school by choice. That will have additional expenses. Do they not move into a special ed category for that or they don't mess them up. They don't they don't mess the stairs. They they can during the process. But they don't mess the stairs. And I will tell you a very careful because I don't give. If the question arises about whether or not a student should be moved into that category, there are expenses leading up to it that we must pay. So if let's say hypothetically, a kindergarten or a text there and they say, we're not sure that child will need this, this and this, we have to go through the process of finding out if they do require that. Yes. And so I can't tell you, minus three, I have had students that were 30 to 40 thousand dollars in charter and magnet schools. So again, if you want to move
this, just please know that at some point we may have to say, this is an expense we need to take out of the two percent. So I'm not saying it's risky, but I'm saying if you do it, I think that transparently we should know that that's not because there's extra padded money in here. It's because this is our anticipated cost based on what we could see happen. So if you move it, great, just know that if it happens, I don't want someone to then say, wait a minute, you haven't told me that then, because it would have to come out of that two percent of the ones.
So are you begging us? No, I was begging you with the oil, I'm not begging you. Yeah, I mean, you're going to set it, if you have seen it, please don't pay me a little towel. I think it's safe or if it's once again, but I can't put that in grass. Right. So, so you weren't what you're proposing? Eric 10. I was going to say, 10 grand there. Yeah. Reduction. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Throw it at a given down to 10 grand balance. So to a grand reduction to balance it. We already have 11,000 dollars that I am 100 percent sure of in charter magnet for next year. She can't get a grant to cover that if we, so if you're going to cut it here, it can't put less than the limit. So that's due at, because that's what I'm going to do. I don't know how to hire such an order. I don't know how to do it, but it's going to be at least a
lot. I want to 100 percent sure we're going to have 11,000. We're going to have other services in her. So really, you may get 12. Would you just be then taking the 7942 and just adjusting it there? I take less from there. Yeah. Take less from where? The salaries? I've been trying to set that. I'm trying to get to a place where, like, let's look where we can move money the best. And I think, like, what I, why I looked at numbers without that explanation, I saw a six grand, a two grand. Like, let's, I think there's some room there. Let's take some out. So I was, I rather, by vision, as I was doing this, was to applaud, would be the teaching number. Figure out everything else, what the teaching number, and then you balance out. I just no matter how many
times I went through it and trying to pull like bits from other places, we can't get to that. There's a lot. I know. No, I get to the whole teaching. And keep in mind, that's, that's 63, 35. And I know what I'm working with. Keep in mind, I know what to write in them. That's 63, 35. That expense was only for one child. Now we're up to two children this year. And I'm like, and there we go. And there we go. It's just, there we're existing. Yes. So like, you said, if you're planning on pretty much at least 11,000 next year, that's the plan of knowing what's out of it. Is there any chance that you would get a grant for psychology, services, instead of for a teacher's salary? We have, I'm cooling me, but remember, we already have one that will work now, who works for mental health for that additional day. And we have that person. So, so the 45,000 that's in the budget right now doesn't include. She had more hours than that. That's what I'm saying. So there's, there are hours in addition to the fact that money that
on here that are not on the budget. I'm personally planning to keep it the way it is. And look at the grant aspect. And listen, I don't want to see you cut 100 from the teacher line either, but that does give you the most wiggle room. It does because if a grant comes up, we can do it. If not, you have you two percent. And you have a little bit more leeway in terms of where people go. What if a grant comes up where the point to from Spanish is able to be covered because it has to do with culture and, you know, more languages. There you go. Do you know what I mean? I'm not happy about 163. I have a couple of it either. And I do believe that you may have to use the true percent. But I'm a little concerned about some of these other specific areas, us falling short of. And then having to ask for, you know, lots of increases. As remember, whatever you cut it to in here, he's going to affect the percentage increase of each line that you're asking for for the 2627 budget. So that's what I'm most concerned about. And now if you, now we did end to my lapsing, we can't keep doing that year or two. You have to find it in next budget cycle. Now you're asking for 3% for teacher salary and benefits. Well, for us, that's up on this. We're going to need that money either way because if we didn't think we were going to have these expenses, they wouldn't be in here. So they're in here. This is a safe budget the way it was. And now there's a cut. So you got to make the cut because it's got to show what we have to make. Yeah, no, I'm not
but either way, I mean, if we went over on oil next year's budget's going to show a 30% increase out oil if we cut from there. If you go over on the teacher, you can't get a grant. Oh, sorry. So smoothly salary. It's difficult either way. I mean, come on, everybody knows that I would prefer the customer in areas where if where you potentially could have a grant. Yes, that's. That's what I would like to do. Yeah. That's not, you know. Just to side don't though. When we go to do the go to budget season, in addition to the budget and the increases, we should also show should look expenditures next year. So people have the litmus for where we did go over and why there's the increases. Oh, yeah. Yeah, which, I mean, that's usually that's always the only thing that's not necessarily shown is like when when we got the grant to cover a portion of a salary, like what was the true expense for for site services versus how much how much of that true actually he's by a grant. Because those are never in this. And then I think a lot of people in our town don't realize how much time and effort you guys put into getting grants to pay first off like that. But they don't see it. I know. And that's just, I mean, that's difficult. Obviously, we could sit here for an hour and talk about why school districts, you know, have problems getting budget pass this year because that happens. It does happen. You know, anybody who's not paying
attention the way some of our guests are that are on every night, every week, every month, every, you know, they don't know. And so that is a factor. You know, we try to show to people, try to make them understand. They don't always, you know, but for our purposes, Kate's first opening statement was we don't want to take it from the kids. And, you know, either way, it's going to come to the school itself. I believe that if we make the cuts into safest place, we do have the 2% to Eric's point. Sure, we don't want to use it, but probably going to have to use some of that money. I think this happens. There's no risk. We're going to have to wear it for real. Whether it's for teacher salary, if there's no grants this year for us to apply for, that's going to be a singer for us. So it's just a matter of where do you want in here to say you're going to use it for? You know, I want there to be like a line item that's like
funding a new equipment in head year that we can take it away from. I'd like to take it away from that. I know, let's do that. I tend to put that line in and she wouldn't hit away. There you go. There you go. I think great bottom line, like at the end of the day, probably the way that it's written out here is the safest thing to do in regards to where you think you might get grand money from the top first off. That is correct. I'm motioning to accept the cuts. That's us. I think it has presented. Has anything been done on the second one? Okay, I'm in the brain. You're lucky. I think that's really good. Sorry, get late. Thank you. Okay. Don for you those, Jerry. Second thing. Sean, and Shannon Lee. Let's run it. Do you have any other notes, comments? Okay, thank you. All in favor of us as I said. I'd like to ask it. Hi. Hi, I'm opposed. Eric, did you say? I don't know. Oh, you said. Okay, I thought you were in the minute.
She's got next to me. Okay, so we'll modify that. I'm not going to get poached so that people guys are free. Yes. Yeah. I'm adding public comment. I'm going to be nice and fast added. I promise. I know. So I'm just going to just so you guys see it real quick in front of you. So this is the the calendar that was approved and as you know, we do this process. We're working alongside Hebrew and Marbo and Ram as they're doing it, but timelines can get hard in terms of when boards approve these calendars. And so I noticed a difference. Some of brought to my attention, a difference in our calendars that Ram approved. On Ram's calendar currently, so it's approved by their board on their website, they do not have this fifth as a professional development data. It's typically the referendum day. And we noticed this year. I think I mentioned to you guys, this is strange. This is different that I thought. Ram does not have this day. Instead, right here,
on the 27th, our first day projected, they have professional development. So for those that have kids at any endover and at Ram, they have two different days of school. So option A's, we can leave it as is. However, we could swap so that our professional development days also here in the 27th and our first days in the 28th, the fifth becomes a regular school day. Benefits for me are that professional development, August versus May tends to be a little more effective. They need a morning, a little bit. So there's that. Second benefit is that alignment with Ram. There is a little cost savings in that we have to pay bus transportation on this first day. Because Ram is in transporting. I don't know the number on that, but it's it is this. And it's a different parental and family-wise. It's been a year to have around a different day off. And Hebrew and our rural are both different. So it's not like we'd be matched. We'd be matching one of them. Like I think Hebrew is off on the fifth and marbles on. So it's not, and again, we don't have parents
who have kids here and in Hebrew. And you have here and at Ram. So that's my recommendation, but certainly I make a decision to change the school calendar for the 25th, 26th school years, such that August 27th now becomes a professional development day. They can, of course, they at school, August 28th. And May 5th is now a full day of school. Yes. I'll second it. A lot of them do, so it's really, really. And I just want to add. So you know that there are six full pd days, would match Ram's, are six full days. They would all match. They have 17 half days, we have 10. But the ones we have, the only difference is are two conference days that they don't have. So that's nice, too. Eight out of 10 would match. On A-Bams, they have days for families. So you wanted to be them. I just want to make sure one new, that feels like a really good alignment to me for families, which is different. I think my one request is let's give this home to parents. Yeah, I know that's why it's, I think that's the only part I do. But there's a motion for me. Yeah, here. All in favor. Hi. Hi. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. So that officially school will start on the third day. There's days of 20 years saved the tool. But I think even if you're not saying calendar home,
if you just, yes, I will make sure that. And then the website, but I will send it. Yes, we'll get it as a official. Um, comments from the public on agenda. I am. And do you have any comments for us? No, no, no, I thought I didn't know if you were calling for comments. I'm all set. Thank you. Thank you. I'm still in. Kim. I'm all set. Thank you. Okay. Holly. You're good. Yeah. And, Doran. I'm all set. Thank you so much. Thank you very much. Okay. Um, any other action items that we missed? Motion or Jared? And then just remind your Arden. We're meeting. We'll be July 9th. And then we all agreed that August 13th we will do 4 p.m. that goals for the coming home in year. Okay. Did you dog? Yeah. The second name and voting or not? So we do still have to start. Yeah. Just someone want to second her, Jared. Okay. All in favor.