and I think I won it so promoting It was supposed to be cool today, you know, like in the next 10 days, I think it's a dry weather. It's a dry out. I think it's just disgusting. It's just gross. It's gross. It's pretty nice. I'm already at the lake. It's just a river. It's just a river. I've been through category once before. Whatever. Just roll the water. I need to go to the lake. I don't know. Yeah, it's Saturday. It'll live in English. It's weird because it's just, it's like those little pockets. Yeah. I was so happy. But for some reason, I've had an amazing lot of hitting every single, like, flashback, white-out, storm pocket, while driving in the past few days. It doesn't matter where it was. It doesn't matter where it was. In addition, when you're there online, you don't need to go to the airport. Okay. Good evening, everyone. It's seven o'clock. You're right on time. I'm calling to order the September 13th towards 23, regular meeting of the end-over connectivity board of education. Thanks to everyone in attendance for being here this evening. Thank you to board of education members for volunteering your time to, it's out of hand over to serve on this board.
Please stand for me. Please stand for me. Thank you. Thank you. I'm going to be here tonight tonight. I'm going to be a public, always to stand. Why nation? When they're got in here, it is all with liberty and justice for all. Thank you, Chris. Thank you. Come on, it's from the public. Come on, we're in. Are you in a comment? Excuse me. Excuse me. No comment. Thank you. Thank you. Nothing right now. Thank you. Thank you. Do we have anybody else? Yes, I kind of. No. Okay, communication. Does anyone have any share? We're in none. We're going to the approval of the minutes. And first we'll approve the minutes, regular meeting on August 9th, 24th. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Chris. I need the discussion. We're all in favor of the minutes from the regular meeting of August 9th, 2023. Say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. I have to have a stand. I think you have to have a stand.
Anybody else? Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Special meeting of August 21st, 2023. I don't know if we need a motion. Second. The discussion. We're moving to the minutes. Special meeting of August 1st, 2023. Thank you. Second. Second. Second. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Any discussion? Okay. All in favor of a moving. The minutes from the special meeting of August 21st, 2023. Say aye. Aye. Aye. And he opposed any extension. One. Thank you. Whether any additions or delicious? Aye. Say aye. Aye. I would just like to. at an action item to item number D. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yes, thank you. Okay. Did you want to just go ahead with an action item? Correct. Okay. We'll see. We'll see. Okay. All in favor of that. Well, I would change. Just friendly memory to change it to what the other he read is in possible action. Right. Yeah. Right. Yes, please. All in favor. All in favor. Okay. So. Anybody else have any. They shouldn't go to lesions. Hearing none. Celebrations. Does anyone have any celebration? I guess I guess it's more feedback than anything. But I would like to celebrate our principles hard work in trying to
change the curriculum for the upper grades of some great feedback from multiple students. All right. Thank you. And I would like to celebrate the upper candidate to come in and read the students. There's a lot of fun again to change. And I love the book. Yeah, it was a good book. Yes. In my own report, I was going to mention. Thanks to you, Taylor, for the opening day efforts. You should put it into making it really special. Thank you to the volunteer people who came as a read. I know I really enjoyed that. That was a wonderful experience for me. And I truly enjoyed doing that. And thank you for opening that up to people coming to do.
Thank you. I also want to thank you, Shannon. For the work you've done in the policy review. I could tell you put a lot of energy and effort into that. Yeah. It was terrific. Thank you. From talk to that. Excellent. And so last time I wanted to thank you for your work. I'm picking up with a parking lot. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And I want to thank you for your taking on trying to get us all together for the board meeting. Put on the board's town. Superintendent, your family. Well, yeah, I don't have too much. I know Taylor's got the good stuff. Just a couple of quick things.
We have been invited. Actually, invited is not the right word. We agree actually. The forum for Joe Corby. To come and speak with the regional. We're sent the ends of Facebook with the health grants. Because I have two towns. His people said, you know, but we can go to both. I said, we'll host you here. So I said, actually, I said, we'll put out the good. I'll give you some coffee. Thank you. Joe, we have a graph said that would be wonderful. So they will be coming. Really, the focus of it is to look at trends and school mental health.
And how we expect has been the funding to impact these trends. And it's to really look at key. Those are the neighbors that will be coming. Let's say we have more broke one via. Coventry. Scott Lynch. East Hampton. And it's something we've been wanting. Not. And so they will all be joining us. And they just kind of want to see if everybody is facing the same trends. You know, and will they spend it the same way. So I think it, you know, we're the only. We help our pause in this region. I think the plate of this water districts is different than the words or districts. Not only in terms of funding, but in terms of what we are simply. I've also been asked by the state to present. Have their performance matters for them, which is after we'll talk. Kind of the state department of education has a very large.
Events that does also look at trends. But since it's a performance matters, they have what they really have is about 12 breakout sessions. All the long sessions that run three times during the course of the day. The one that I would ask you to facilitate with John from the state is about writing and implementing effective. Some enrichment programs. And moving forward with the state. What would that look like. You know, how best to funded what the criteria should be. And, you know, how we went about implementing certain things and then results. So they've been following us remember for three years now. So the next year will be our fourth summer. So, you know, I said to tell I don't know if that's honor. Because, you know, you can't notice I know.
But I think it'll be good to, to kind of see some of the other things that are going to be there that day as well. Um, you know, at a state level. So, so that would be good. We'll look at other educational trends from the information they are. Before you go and you've heard it, and I've forgotten to come to school. Next week. Yeah. What time? I'm Monday. Yeah. Thank you. Good afternoon. Don't forget to capture it. Okay. So. Yeah. Who's involved in those meetings. So we need this school administrator. Mental health specialist. Okay. Okay. So I know one of the differences. For example, between Scotland and here is we have BCBA services that we are spending the money on there and that. So the person that would be coming from Scotland in addition to the principle. We'll represent, you know, those mental health needs there. Here we've asked Jenny because they're about new needs here. We're taking to preschool and kindergarten. And so that's Jenny. And we've also asked our school psychologist. And I do have a call in specifically to invite A&CM because that's who I've partnered with over the summer. And more nurses are simply in crisis. So, so they'll be there as well. So they'll find about the total five up 30 people. That's really good. Yeah. So other thing, buddy. No. But if there was a board member that was interested that we know. You know, but it isn't, you know, it's definitely was, you know, a panel of the towns.
But again, there's a board member that was like that. So, so that would be interesting, you know, for us to find out what kind of they are. So. And yeah, you guys already think for, but we had an amazing opening. And I mean, I tease Taylor. I always say to her, you know, she's got her 10 year her, the miracle team there's caused the dream team. But she tells us a really good job of making sure that things are done collaboratively here. You know, I've seen that last year, more than ever before. It made me sure that the job gets done because it's so much easier to see the success when that happens. So, and thank you, kid, for bringing up that curriculum because, you know, as you'll see from Taylor's presentation, we are really on the right path. And we'll get the data from that. That's it. Thank you. Thank you. Great. I've got a little bit of an hour, I just want to tell you about it. Hearing none. Press the board report. That's a bad person. Yeah, sure. Yeah, I'm excited. Well, thank you all for the support for the opening of the year. It's day 10. It's the kindergarten teachers keep track. So they tell me.
It's day 10 today. And I really think the cross the building people, this is our smoothest opening. Yeah, I mean, just kids just came in like ready to go. You know, they've excited to be here. We've, it's like, we're able to make a lot of changes. And we had it almost feels like no changes. Hopefully to kid, you know, like in good ways and in subtle ways. So we're excited. Some people in shift in positions and really all those little moves to kind of make what we hope to be a really successful year. So we can finally kind of talk about S back. I'm going to share a little presentation and just give you some highlights of where our data looks from the past spring and kind of where we're going to go. We're going to go forward. We're getting on zoom too. All right. Everybody knows, but just so the public are smarter balance assessments. So those are the statewide assessments that we take in the spring and grades three through six here in and over and we take them in math and in ELA English language arts and fifth grade takes them in science.
So we had a hundred percent participation, which is awesome last year. So what you're looking at is our full student body of last year. So these wouldn't include now our fourth through seventh graders just so it's worth thinking about that. So as we look at grade levels and break downs, just kind of remind yourself of that. What's really neat is at this year and a little bit of even the year before. As students are taking this test, we were actually getting data pretty quickly in real time. And while it wasn't like official long barcode, you know, those fun state things. It helped teachers like right away. So they were, we were already able to plan and main June into September, which had a lot to do with our four five seconds. The way we were kind of switching classes, offering some enrichment. We didn't have to wait.
We used to see if he's never been waiting till now to even be looking at it. So our teachers were able to kind of jump off right away. Already haven't seen the state. And I'm not first day of school saying, now let's, let's look at it. All right. So the first screen. I tried to make the numbers as big as possible. So I apologize. They're so many. This is just our achievement. So the straight achievement. It's a state of Connecticut is our top line. So you'll see I've grayed out kind of the past years. Just for focus. So in ELA in math, the state average is 48.5 and 42.5. That's the percentage of students meeting proficiency, meaning a three or a four. As fast as four, one, two, three or four. Then you see and over. And we're nothing. It's not consistent, huh? 60 to 0.2 and 60 to 0.2 and crazy how last year exactly the same as well. But so we're at almost almost a 10 percentage point jump. So really in exciting direction uphill closer to where endover was averaging and certainly above the state average. We'll talk about growth scores. And I think it's important. We always have in ha and even internally on comparing ourselves to other districts.
But I know it's on everyone's mind. And it is one piece of information to take a look at. So I did want to provide that to you. I did keep it in Marvel. I chose but one in Colombia just because I feel like they're around us and sometimes people are curious. Just to help you kind of see. Maybe a percentage comparison. Now one thing to know and as we always talk about, we'll see in the next fours are because we are the smallest of these five. In third grade, I believe it was one student was four percent. So had had two more students been prohibition. We're looking at 70's, right? That's on two students, right? So it's hard because these numbers are great to look at. But we just always have to remind ourselves of perspective taking kind of when we because we are so small versus some of the districts. And none of these are huge obviously. But still 80 students versus, you know, 300 gives you different spread in percentage points. So you can just take a look at that. So you have a sense of where we are this year. And we'll kind of come back to what that can look like. So broke it down by grade just to take a peak here. Often in every school, you see different trends at different grade levels. And it's just that cohort. They're often just made up differently. So you may see, as you can probably stand out on first lands, our grade five students last year. And more pretty high performing cohort. And then you can see kind of how that varies.
So the green obviously is a three blue is that four, which is above grade level. Yellow is that two approaching grade level. And one is called the below standard, which means you're at least one year below with a two year. So you can see that four percent if you look. That's where you can see two students is eight percent here on this particular cohort. So and this is the data that we break down further and further because we're so small. I can't break it down too much for you because it would pretty be identifying the large students, which I wouldn't want to do. One of the neat things we can also do is when we look at these 10 students say in grade four who are approaching. We can actually see their standard score and how close it is to a three.
So those 10 students perform very different. They're maybe one or two just edge into a two and there could be seven who were two questions away from a three. And the state has done a better job of giving us more of that information rather than this because this doesn't drive our instruction enough. But we actually can't hear a little down. They will also drill into different standards for us and say this is the. Dill mean where most of your kids did really well. This is the domain. And so that's really helpful for us. Perkill and why it's too expensive. Oh, then making a stop at fractions wasn't very weakness. Obviously that would be something we would focus on. So I wanted to show you this is again, sorry. It's a lot of numbers, but I'll explain it. So growth is really important and is an important state measure that we use.
So there's two kind of ways we track. The first is growth rate. And so in this column right here and I've done yellow into our this year. So and over my brode he burn I figured we can't look at it in more numbers. That's enough. Growth rate is how many students met the target the S back separate. So every student they have little Joe in fifth grade. He scored 10. It's not a real number. S back says, well, if he's on track to meet proficiency, he just score an 18 next year. Something like that, right? And so this is how many of our kids meet that goal. However, a little Johnny scored a nine. His goal might be he needs to score a 26. You know, it's personalized to each student based on their growth. You can see right here. The state average is pretty low.
I should have put it on there. I apologize, but it's an exceptional improvement here in ELL and across the board. Pretty close. It's not a little about where the rest of our regions. This one average percentage of target achieved. We worked really hard on. So then you say you have about half of the students meeting the goal. But what how much of the goal is the average student meeting? And so in here, I mean, this is as you can see if you look back through the years for it. And over our highest growth that the average kiddo is hitting at least eight. Almost 82% of their growth goal. It's hard to wrap your mind around a little bit, but if that makes sense. So how them are meeting it. And of that half, 82% they're meeting 82% of no close. So half are meeting it. Like they hit that 18 of all of them, including ones that met and the ones that. What above and the ones that went below are average. We're hitting about 82% of the goal. Okay. So if the goal was a 10 and we read a zero most on average, we get to an 8.2.
And one of the biggest I know just because we haven't mentioned it. Yes. Obviously, 1920 is missing due to COVID and we can see a huge drop. We're correct. On those for those. And then we've almost fully recovered. Yeah, so I'm excited. I was we were really excited about this. And yes, we want our proficiency. We talked about as a staff. We're not shooting for 75, where we were. We're shooting for 100, right? And every student proficient. But this is what we're using as our metric to be like, okay, we're on the right track. We're growing exponential at the rapid enough case where we can get there. We know the recovery is going to take more than a year. We weren't going to hit proficient in a year, but. At least we can see, okay, we're moving the direction. And that's, you know, just another comparative here you can see on average even for all three.
You know, we were living in the 50s and 60s. And we really. And this is the specific grade. This will be the third. All together. Yes. It's the average and all of them. We could pull it by great. Questions about this part. I'll share that. Yeah. Yeah. Science. I can't put our official science. They won't report it because we're so small. I'm the state website because as we only have a few students in fifth grade, they don't want to identify kids. But I can pull it for us to see again, fifth grade is a strong cohort for us. So we did exceptional 67 plus 17. 87%. Right. 8. Okay. I'm not taking that. So our proficiency was high in science, which is spectacular. And what we look at. It just for your information at the science. We compare often to the ELA test because we want to see. We want to see the reading skills. Is that correlating for kids? Are there kids doing exceptional on ELA and math, but not in science?
Are there kids? Because I'll show you. I actually put a sample of your science questions. I think people wonder what it looks like. And it really requires both sets of skills. You have to be a strong reader. Which can be hard. Some kids who aren't strong readers excel in class in science. But they don't necessarily sell on the state test because it requires so much reading. So they only take that in fifth grade eight as well. Fifth eight. Okay. But it's not. It's not as often. Okay. Could be a lot of dopamine. We'll tell you. Taylor on that one. Sorry. What's significant about this bar kids too is you know, we always talk about those skills that are tested. The kids ability problem solved.
The kids ability to figure things out. They need that reverse test. Mm-hmm. And so those. What everyone says are untested skills. Twenty percentory skills. They have those. Yeah. That is clear. Right. Because they have to actually problem solved. There's no memorization that could take place to do well on a science performance task. Mm-hmm. And then yeah. This is a city under it for how well our kids think. Yeah. And the new science standards don't tell you you have to study bats in fifth grade. They said you have to study how living things interact with the environment. So we as a school might pick bats as our, you know, area focused, but we're teaching that particular thing. You still because you don't know if you're going to get. And so a different wayals on the state test. So it's not about that kind of memorization that we're in the written. Yeah. Did this like the science testing not see as much of a dip. COVID related as an. Yeah. Well, in the state. Yeah. And over because we're so small. It's just we're only testing 15 to 20 kids. Um, when I track our science back, we do see some of this. Um, yeah. That's just kind of. And we want to make a healthy. It's really difficult. Yeah. I'd like we're trying to get that consistent. Yeah, it's really hard.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Don't ask where it's going. Yeah. It's your concerns. That the students aren't. I'm fascinated. No, I wonder if this is where it's going to leave our teaching. Yeah. I think those are tools of the teaching. Brittany, yeah. It's a lot of. Yeah. It's a lot of. It's a lot of questions. So there is some um, phenomenon. We call it the study. So, um, it could be roadkill to the phenomenon. And so they show a picture's real kill because they launched the unit and you can imagine the kids have 50 questions about real kill And we might know what we're going to get to is how things deepen polls right and what that does to our environment to our soil Maybe that's the long answer that kids are generating questions and almost always they generate the one you want right And so there's a lot of buy into kids and then they're kind of going off and doing a lot of modeling So you actually see kids drawing a lot of science yes cans on but it all it ultimately leaves to a lot of modeling
Where they're kind of trying to map out something on on some science Same that happens and then adding to it as the unit progresses. So that's I would say the general structure And then you know you certainly the younger grade you see them outside if it's environmental science We have Mrs. Hazen if you're familiar with her she's subs for us form a science teacher She if she subs she goes please I'll be writing the science plans don't leave me play So she brings animals in even during school she'll do some specials in the classrooms But then she just doing some outer school programs too. We use the correct bundles right now We have science units that we many years ago most districts every district I've been in has the same ones because NGSS was so new They were the first ones to kind of put something together But as especially in the 456 as we start to departmentalize a little of gdx and teaching two sections She'll start to become more of the expert in that area, right and in continued to develop. So But whatever you do seems to be working. Yeah, yes So just to kind of finish and I want to take too much time, but what are what are we doing? What have we done? Where are we still focusing on to continue to rise this for us? I don't explain it to you because I know this for and supports the idea that S back is not the end all the y'all I know you believe our kids are more going to test for and I also know that you believe this is a
DIPstick right it's a measurement of where we are in time so it does matter and I believe our staff represents the belief system as well So we are focus on acceleration and I couldn't always like think of a sentence to write to explain it well enough But what I need my acceleration is there there was this model thinking of I'm gonna teach multiplication Okay, I'm gonna go up in the front of the room and I'm gonna show you how to do it I'm gonna give you a problem. I'll walk you through it now you try it now the way we teach except the multiplication is we put a work problem Let's say go ahead and go over up with your part and see what you can do You be shocked kids typically have already so much to draw on them that they're they were actually 14
That's the head of where you were gonna start now the teacher at these six groups of work to do Now come back come back. Okay, so there's where you at here's the next step. We've actually One we've engaged students and they're doing more work and they're into it, but two we're eliminating some of that Teaching that we do because it feels like we've always done it and we're accelerating meeting kids where they are and we're gonna follow So that's great intervention. We know we've talked about but having our three interventionists has been Amazing last year it contributed to a lot of this success and we're excited to continue it with Jenny of course We've kind of just structured those positions now that we know more and where we need them But remember putting that time and understanding to Kate too will translate up to us back as we go Criculum is Caitlin mentioned we are doing a ton of curriculum work and we're really just starting Just that real audit of what are we doing? You know we believe in teaching to students not in fidelity to a program, which is great But takes a lot of time and attention It's easier to teach the textbook lesson than to say what actually is valuable from hearing what's in front of our kids So we're doing a lot of that work And then finally practice and sometimes people will say oh, we don't teach to the test True, however the test represents the common course standards sometimes you just have to put on your Philosophical we believe that what the state says if those are the standards then we're not teaching to a test We're teaching to the standards however how we present information to kids matter
So I just before I stop I had to just give you two examples because I So guys, I think we forget This is a third grade math problem And I wanted to just draw it's the first one on the practice test I swear I didn't even look for one that was you know Especially and you at first when you look at it now one of the teachers is Tim's teacher one is two is teacher all the books Tim's teachers 26 more books and students teacher who is Tim's teacher Now you are now set eight years old Right, I think that the amount of language um that's the problem It's like the two trains leave the same and yeah, and it's not asking every third grader in this school can do 172 minus 148 We're sure that we teach that Can every third grader into this question though? They have to know a lot more right? They have to know how to attack it So even last year small things like grabbing the problems and the state gives us a Million practice and all that kind of thing and embed them into our units not saving I'm not talking the week before us back. I'm talking that continuous like let's look at our own assessments Is this how we're teaching math because this matters? I don't hate this problem right because in the real world when you do math
It is often in this way when you're decision making So I you know we want them to have those skills But you can see now how come I could get a hundred on their test but they're getting a two on S back This happens if we don't do this continuously Just a sucker a sucker a science Example so one thing to notice is the I this scrolls This scrolls so often even the technology alone. We kids up to navigate especially ELA Usually all the passages are over here that they're scrolling and then all the questions are over here And not only are they typing but they have to figure out how to use arrows. I did this these beauties So they're getting a lot of information and then talking about how the flow of matter There is no guarantee and it's unlikely we taught phytoplankton in fifth grade But it did not come up right and that's kind of what Val is saying They'd have to be able to do the critical thinking to then go ahead and do diagrams So it's not just like a multiple choice test anymore, you know, it really is Which we applaud in a lot of ways? It came a long way from CMT, but you can't put a third grader on this and just expect they're gonna like And that's part of using seesaw this year when talked briefly our new and
That form provides more examples and more opportunity for kids to Just in one of the second and third grade classes the combo the other day They were doing the math exit ticket on their iPads and they're you know now that's that's a way that they're getting more and more comfortable already Reading doing the work on paper Transposing it back into a computer so all in moderation, but I just wanted to give you guys a bit of a Taste of some precious Any questions for me The one that I know I've asked to be for specifically looking at the sixth grade I know comparing to other districts as an always That's metric but We feed into a high school or middle school with two other districts. Yes, so are we making what are we doing to make sure that our kids are at the same level or above Where their cohorts will be next year. Yes, I actually met with the principal at Reon last week He was me before Michael The middle school and then someone asked to me those exact questions and He had nothing but kind of things to say about and over was Do I know he says it to every district? I don't know because it's was not a numbers game, but he he Definitely talked about how we come in Typically he said even socially emotionally very prepared and ready I think Jamie Weber doesn't excellent job of the kind of balance in that line of year in an elementary, but This is what it's gonna be like He then talked about they just added a new curriculum position there and Don't put me if it does ELA and but he talked about how one of her goals is to
Start doing some more meetings between the three schools and looking at curriculum wise and looking at that data Not to say gotcha to one of us But to say are we all kind of coming in with the same skills and how are we being prepared? So we are having that conversation It was hard for him and I was like what do you have test words? You can show me you know like in the moment he was like no, but He certainly You know is spoke highly of our students and said that that was something you wanted to support is making sure We were all on the right track So tell me please do that back film computer or that Yeah, so Yes, and that's how you end up getting a four or two or a one a little bit less so in the summit of assessments because they do want to test all the great level comment But yes content it is adaptive and then we also have what's called the ibs which are the interim assessments That we can give Just like the us back there to say everything for the kid and we actually get the results that minute You know pop up So we can kind of track We've talked about I ready here our other um assessment and we also align it to I ready to make sure that we're Those are are tracking and so that that makes sense to us and if not why
You know at the end of the day where we are dealing with small children, so Ever kid has a day when they're not interested in saving that computer test Try to make it feel more comfortable so that it's not like high stakes that day Thank you very much What's your build now on the aspect of it just get back to the component called tail and gave you can you just Give those of us who don't have kids in here Just a normal understanding of the curriculum changes sure So we'll start just in four five six five the biggest check what we've done is And I hate to use our department twice because not completely where every teachers do and just one subject However, every teacher has different subjects in different grades all the students are all switching classes Fourth and fifth grade switching twice and sixth grade switches to all for real And then in addition we've added a four five enrichment math class and a four five I'm sorry not four five five six enrichment math class and a five six enrichment ELA class Which serves many purposes one helps to meet individual needs of students It also makes our class sizes a touch smaller up at the five six which is nice
As those tend to be our biggest classes And that's so Mrs. Frazier and Mrs. Latesa library and math intervention are teaching those sections In math we're piloting a lesterative mathematics I know you might have wordmise and we piloted I ready Very expensive and did not give us a what enough to feel like that was an investment a lesterative math is open source Which means it is free to us free to any district with The goal being every student in Connecticut has access to high quality curriculum And we're very pleased so far we've done some training in that in reading we're still We're still on the wait for our magical labor from the state. Yeah, I'm sure that's coming any day You know that the rumors are maybe by Christmas now But as as always we forge ahead so we continue in our work to Follow the science of reading and adjust our practices based on that so we're doing a lot more of a Splissed phonics instruction of the lower grades still building in You may hear if you're kind of hearing the reading wars that love of reading and that independent reading we value that We value kids loving books and wanting to be in them However, we don't but waste a time with kids who can't read and are just sitting like looking at the book or not engaged So we're really balancing that with more explicit instruction And we are looking at the approved programs that the state has provided in
Because we just we don't know if the waiver gets denied and we need to utilize grants that the state has put forward Then we will and if not we'll continue to supplement our current instruction with what what is needed What is the last year to the last year to have Excuse me, what is this sort of the same? Yeah, yeah, it's a quick film so If you think of your math textbook It had a McGraw Hill probably on the edge that there you go It's that but the name is illustrative and so and there is no textbook So I would say if I had to sum it up for you. It's a lot of that Part we call productive struggle in the math work math world Up front where we're just saying what can you do and wrestle with this and then we'll go ahead and scaffold and fill in what you need to Forward things like a number talks a lot of fluency some mental fluencies that we're working on And so that's we're piloting then two three it will build into four five six and then in K one We plan to stay with our teaching to the standards we have many programs to draw on But as we do more play based learning and I feel we're actually very ahead of the curve and K one of the state
There wasn't a program that meets our need so we have highly competent teachers who plan to the stand up Thank you They were also working Thank you all who came to read and supporting us and the opening Yeah, and it was great to see in the enrollment report that we're up to two I'm sad you said Not to steal your thunder. Sorry, but now that I see it through to them Well, I mean, I guess Yeah, but just from other days Thank you. No, just great to see that We had there's some house in selling and we're our precares to both of the brim and we we are Yeah, that's great Absolutely We're at the back of your packet is the financials for to lie in August That's at the time I ran this report
Did anybody have a chance to grow current are there any questions? I mean, I didn't see anything The ordinary but you have questions by all means. I just have one question for the special ed out placement It looks like we're at about 50% is that Wherever that's being paid you pay for half a year. Well, already yeah, I got the bill from one of our Our place students are ready for the I and I and Comverted for the whole year. Okay, that's what the Is If I know about it, I don't know Yeah, I don't know if that way it give you a more accurate reaction. Okay, so it's in your number versus three. Yeah, yes, yeah Any other questions We think they're ready on that Apologize those who were here last time actually got a hand out I thought they were being suited in the packets they worked Otherwise, I would have been able to do but we'll have some show and tell right now
Then those of you had it last time You know already have copies of the policies so what I did was start off with the 1,000 series policies And before going any further, I wanted to make sure that I was providing it to you all in a format that you wanted to see K-O and how to next one suggestion so that's how I provided it last time which was Don't just show us the changes you've made show us as they have been incorporated show us the changes that you actually made to Apologize or proposing be made for the policies so for example This is the new 1,000 policy and the time last time unfortunately we didn't provide you with color copies otherwise you would know You know the changes that were made What not not a lot to this policy What I did in preparing the policies is to go back and compare our policies to the ones that are provided by K K has a poor policy manual And then spoke with Valerie who as we talked about last time Made excellent suggestions once they talked about the way again I'm just using she get and basically said just considered this and I think all of us need to consider this Policies are our things that exist for a very long time if you're looking at these policies They were last updated in 2009 so There are only certain things about which we want policies to be made so in looking at the poor policy manual It doesn't mean that we have to adapt all of those policies One of the policies for example that I decided or in conjunction with speaking with Valerie decided that I didn't necessarily have a thing
We needed and Taylor just alluded to it. You know we've gone through different programs just with our different curricula Well, this is a program with regard to the parent portal Well, we've gone through different programs with regard to the parent portal So is it really something that we want to create a policy about or just let our administration do their job? So for example, I didn't put in 1110.2 As a policy that you all might want to see included if you think you need a parent portal policy Acceptable use in safety policy I can provide it to you when you can take a look and see if that's something And if we're going to you just a lead to anyone listening Yeah, the 1,000 series covers what what is the purpose of the revelation Community relations is the entire one tough. Yeah, so it's Communicating with the public are distributing print and material communicating with media How was that all supposed to occur now the interesting thing about policy is policies one thing That's what we create the board of education Then anything about which we create a policy is up to the administration typically the superintendent and or the principal to create any regulations that would
Put into place what the policy required so they have to pay good attention to anything we say shall or will Or does it direct anybody to create a regulation and the final thing that I mentioned last time although it's very strange is they don't simply paginate The pages from policy so even though it looks like it's a parenthetical a it actually is paint one So paint one is parenthetical a Page two of that in policy is parenthetical b and at the bottom of every policy It was like the last time that was adopted and any legislation that's referred to With regard to what the policy is bringing about so Last time I gave so first I guess first question is do you want to see as it was provided last time the changes that I'm proposing And far as future policies that I'm gonna get to you
I wish that I said about Daniel Copy that you know because I wasn't here Honestly, that's what I should have done right, but I'll send it by email and Didn't you send them by email? I did okay, all right, okay, but Send them and then you'll see him in a red I got down in the afforded then I don't know how they came about. Okay, it's okay. I'll be with the future ones But remember so we want to see the changes is that correct? Yeah, I would also ask that if we're going to be voting on it perhaps we can send it to Taylor So we can have it on the screen to share as we're just gonna say yeah, okay Back in it's also up here, so if anyone can see it It sees it as a question or once providing it
I don't have the ones in car No, I'm saying it's a future maybe not today, but if we Okay, that's what you got I don't have what she's referring to Okay, it's gonna. We'll figure it out. Yes, it's what was sent and I'm just saying the future we can do that so that way We have it on the screen everyone can see it. I think that makes the work. Right Yeah This might do most And I mean I would question and I understand well now I don't understand why cave is doing the pagination the way they are But do we want to is that something we've had to do? Is that something we think we should follow or is it going to create more confusion With those individuals who are going to read the policies like parents and should we not follow that that standard The reason why you keep that standard is because a Shannon mentioned earlier every single district's policy book looks different so 11.0 maybe the same in everybody's but if they've had to make them on the bottom That maybe page 12 in this district page 20 and another So they want you to look at the thing on the top if it's three pages of 11 11 It's 11.1 and as Shannon said and if everybody's policy book at first one we'll say hey the next one We'll say the the 4th section will say see so that is why they do that because that every district
Takes any sort of recommend they send thousands of recommendations for policies You know we'll get a course of five years which is great. Well, it's not a district does Putting them in as their phone so that is why you see ABC rather than Aginated about them all because that is the universal and I know when like when Taylor had done when we've done all about updating the website and we talked about having them posted so that you can go to a particular one But also so that if you're parent who wants to read the policies you can print the whole thing out instead of having to click on Like I think we're going to have to change the website because as it stands now They're in word format and the only way in which you know then you have to accept Read only you're all that stuff so we what we need to do is hopefully adopt changes in the policy And then put them on as PDFs. Yeah, yeah, and then they can be changed and what's on the page
And I did for a lot of parts of that Chris did that explanation is Came is the wonderful source of potential policies, but they are equal in this date with words event to the ones that chipman puts out So a lot of districts that do have shipment as their attorneys take the full shipments Suggesting policies 1101 would be the same but chipman versus K R2 separate suggestions So when I was looking at K but I didn't know about your name goodman I would pull together they often have three different templates for what you might put in as a policy Hopefully it's okay that I'm doing the work to look at those three different templates and then Opposite you all what the language might look like If you all want to do that work, that's fine, but that's what I'm trying to do to I take a look at K Kelly Just give it all to you because that would be good. Okay, it is and I think it provides some consistency with the way that they're right Yes So the final thing is a lot except Bottom line is the policy number and the pagination are Uniform state life, which is why it's done. It seems very strange to me and I didn't learn about it because any time I would statue that's 1110 This is a that's the subsection of the statute 1110 So that I have to read that in the K Colisement And bottom line the 1000 all the series are the same throughout the state So what I also tried to do is You had a really good question seed one of the 1000 series some of our policies didn't put at the top of everything
What the series was so I tried to put in community relations on every single one of these So what we've got from consideration today We had it last month is the changes for 1000 Not sure Oh, and the other thing I wanted to mention is if you could imagine their school districts with 10 different schools within the district It was hard not to keep with school district because Valerie is the supervisor of the schools which sometimes can incorporate looking out for students once they get to ram for example So it's not necessarily heard per view or but it is it can be considered a various kitchen per Maybe a student to follow along the whatnot. So I kept school district to school district but any time to refer to school or a principal That's how I know This is again to try to use it That's what we're voting on And The first read on the last one And then another one we're voting on tonight is a completely new one which a why it wasn't all underlined in what not That's 1110 and that's all about the distribution of print of material that's encouraging the relationship between the board of education and the community providing for our website providing for
Inviting the community to public events and whatnot and the requirements at staff members to keep everybody informed the final thing is a statutory requirement which is as Don't all those I was looking for The requirement when board minutes are required to be put around and then when the voting and that's why each vote must be tabulated and The body for the public is the public ones So this is a completely new one Then last time we also got the parent involvement That was 1110.1 And there was so much red that I also provided 1110.1 You're that all that you don't use okay, I don't want to see it And then the final one was 1112 which is media access to students which is when they can come into the school As every parent in your nose, yeah, I'm gonna do the mark And we can we can do the changes later. That's a new policy to these are two together
So we're talking in 1000 1110.1 and one 1000 1110 1110.1 and 1112 And just for right now Yes, sir. Okay, but then we get any changes since I said about last time So the final one as you know is basically as far as media access to students Is as you'll see in the handbook every year you either have to And roll in or roll out and say I don't want we have to negatively say that they do not want They're trial to be in any photos or how many media access So that's recognized and here the other thing that's recognized since we last updated our policies is the required Two parent teacher conferences to be offered per year and they also had it in after COVID What had to happen after at least three weeks of remote learning part So that's that So now knowing what how you want we presented and what we need to do with a bar trip getting it to the public I'll go forward with updating further policies in the 1000 series Okay Yes, there's a paper on anything Beyond the binders or the binders will be used Or is everything a left line Both so when they can a new policy They send the paper one for them The typically send it to the school They send the suggestions right What I'm looking at this isn't the suggestion this was you know that was everything adopted This is our adopted policy manual and I do believe that at least somewhere in the school should keep a hard copy Predated and updated at all times it is and Diane comes off
And I'm sure I'm figuring that And if we're going to keep this in the library and on there then this one should yeah I noticed I already said So one of them is tomorrow I just got an email about it. There is a meeting of the policy heads or whatnot for each board of education for cave and I intend to Participate Zoom so hopefully I'll learn more and be able to go back to you all on next month So I guess I will propose that we change update policies 1000 Policy 1110 Policy 11101 and policy 1112 as proposed by me No Nothing There's be a second and then there can be discussion Okay, so that's what can be your question When can I actually One two second and then we'll discuss it later Yes, sir So And I guess if I'm looking at one 1000 kind of A Yep material You know because last time I presented this there was two questions you want us to ask you should we have this policy And should we commit to this? Correct. So I was looking through some of the language in one one one zero one one hundred one thousand and a
And second paragraph says the board encourages public input into the decision making process into this end the board supports and encourages various means such as Publications press releases open houses website public events and Like a circle four of them a circle publications press released as open houses in public events and I know that the school It self does these but as as a Does a board do we offer any publications that we offer any press releases Do we offer any open houses to the community? Do we have any public events so is there something the board the board is on board commit to or is there something we're supporting the The school is doing exactly so when I read it I read it and We'll close it as the board supports and encourages meaning we're supporting and encouraging the fact that these are disseminated by the school All right, so it's not just the board I just want to make sure that It was it wasn't there was something we were putting on that something where community will want to make that clear Next thing I have is so I would say three paragraph styles the staff members Yep, she'll be kept informed of community relations efforts and they're support in participation in such effort She'll be sucked so the way I read that is that the teaching staff staff support They're gonna be encouraged they're gonna be informed they're gonna be
They're part of our community, but I so my question is is that I don't think contract should there's anything in their contract that says they have to participate anything I'm sort of like both that open house to certain elements that the participate in So if we're putting that in a policy We're kind of setting an expectation of teachers so my question is if that's an expectation We're gonna put on them Is that something we're going to expect them to do without being paid? No, or all I'm seeing it as is keeping them informed So we have an obligation to keep them informed because many of the teachers are part of our community Well, they're part of our community, but many of them live in the community for surrounding areas and
That in coming up with community relations because one of these defines our community relations program and how we're Committing to that right then we need to see if the input of the teachers as far as what community relations efforts should be made right I guess like my I don't think it's anything above and beyond what they're contract required But I think my concern is for teachers lands is that if I'm my participation in such effort should be sought If I'm having my time I understand so I'm out and I'm participating in those I understand what you're saying then have like children I'm part of just being outside my contractual hours So we would take on this patient Collin says yes absolutely so a language wise there just want to be careful with They're the more we're saying yep, so but I think you you either change
That where you change shall be sought to like we'll be We encourage welcome or would be right it's like to say that we would like their input As opposed to required So I would hate to put teachers about positions like you know if certain ones do participate versus others like yeah I guess what I was seeing is you know just looking back at the language That we would be required to seek out their support right, but it wouldn't be expected that they need participate So how to say that so let's make you have anything more So I think you can you got right Your support is a lot more likely because I'll just figure out some language So I was not in the policy of someone so I'm in the next Oh, I messed it on that one stuff Where you you wrote Is this What was it about? It's about a properly written Like including properly written in the science communication And then with the public The regular two way and meaningful no, okay Oh This the board will place on a meeting agenda any properly signed written communication from a citizen or organization
Is it if it proper to have that be vague that you're not defining what properly signed the written communication is Yeah, because in this day and age that's why I'm right about I think It has like you don't use anonymous, but also in this day if I'm like if it's a mail or Correct, yep, but it does have to be acknowledged to send in so that's yep That's what I figured it is Did anybody have anything more on 11-10 Okay, so just while we just change staff members shall be kept informed of community relations efforts And there's support and participation in such ever shall be encouraged. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, welcome. Yeah, I like welcome. Yeah, I like welcome. Yeah, I like welcome. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw it by the sound Welcome excellent Kind of a word. It's really about there. Yes, sir Any changes on 11-10.1 I just have a couple of decades so Point one out of the six on the bottom communicating Communication between home and school should be regular to a meaningful some of the language there. I just want to Discuss so it's a such communication may include one thing whose letters electronic communications Required regular contact with all parents so from the teacher lens What does required regular contact mean? That was in the cave with those policies. So I'll ask our administrators if there is such a requirement I believe there is by law. So so there's not like I don't say Four times per week. You must email each teacher. So There are things like my little newsletter. There are parent conferences that are required that your portcards are required
Sounds but as a communication and then grade levels build consensus around like pre-KK today said Once a week we're all going to agree to at least do one picture and cash in and then once a month we'll do a newsletter So but that varies upon grade level bands as they get older no application of testing scores no application of Application of Anything related to the child there are required right points. But they're reason we're going people and to that it's supposed to just leaving it with Almost Is regular to a meaningful by adding all of those things like we're tying ourselves into and that's realistically The administration on how to make it just kept the language that was in the old cave That was okay then our previous one we had removed that and I'm not sure that I think it's important because I think it's you know
I think it's important to acknowledge Number one what's actually really required like the parent teacher conferences When I what what makes me know I don't want to hear that Well, it says in our policy that we're supposed to be sent out a monthly newsletter and Okay, because there are teachers that don't do a monthly newsletter. They might do a week and what about homework hotlines? I don't know what that means You're the parent should tell me. I think like minister said that it says main clue is important like for me like when I see that word required You know Why you're right the teacher okay, like so I need to know knowing other parents are But knowing other parents on the main include. We don't know if you want to send you a loud Okay, well this pit this teacher says it out so they're the good teacher then your ops not to So like they're not doing it. You just say may include a reason pick the things and then say based on I don't think we should pick the things
I think we should just say that in They're going to what was it before communication between home and school is regular to a meaningful Yeah, and if we want to include them see any statutory requirements to cover us on Like the conference or whatever then that's fine But I don't know that I want to tell any teachers or anybody into a news because I I know parents and I'm no I've heard I didn't get a monthly newsletter this month We could take a whole so can we just say such communication Will include electronic communications because that doesn't define like how many how often but like yes They're going to communicate electronically about newsletters because I know we do send out newsletters I do but not every teacher is no no, but that's it's not it's between the school
Not between teachers and yes, and so as a Challenge out every principle might choose a newsletter. Yeah, but then also the point it's for you. It's only for this school But sure She's asking us not to do I've got So I think the other part of the student using the word may include is make it make it less specific So it will include and then just say Electronic communication and what are the two required conferences Will include electronic communication because you're saying otherwise if you say may include and then list I would say they should do limited both no because they're sex story requirements But you say want you say and will we? Yeah, we don't have every law that we are really I think that's well, I was more specific who include electronic communications and two required And statutory departments Why are we just putting will include any sex That's all right That's it That's what I was teaching you put in value in self-windiers We would even a goal We had to have so many Parent teacher contacts Yeah, a month That could have included Teachers of a grade level again together doing a newsletter and sending home this one contact with every parent or equipment included a test note Your child scored A hundred percent on such a such an evaluation assessment on such a such a day Which included the following skills it could have included a phone call And you have to be you know your son or daughter Row another kid across the room It could be Your son or daughter had a great day this bit today and they worked hard and a compliment So if it takes the form they gave us free ring. They used to want us to report
It was honours But I like that but I think that that should be given to the superintendent and the principal's discretion Not to the board of education to determine how many in low communications are made We're not saying that so yeah, but we make it a policy We are can you read the one eye that we just That it is such communication will include Electronic communications and two or two excuse me electronic communications two required flexible Parenthood your consensus for each school year and And can't let it to require even when you're negotiating the teacher contract That changes that we have to change of the policy Okay, so just give it a whole thing Let's see if we're working for a name the way we know oh Okay, that's may include Electronic communications two required flexible Yeah, say two because again. Okay, how about we're flyers But how about just pair of teacher conferences for each year?
Yeah, name koodle electronic communication and pair of teacher conference I said and then any other statutory required Yes Contact Yeah, the education. Okay We had a lawyer Yeah, anything else my kid you had on I said one my love and property is a lot of stuff Okay, but no, this is what's really My last thing is The point number two around that parenting where so parenting skills should be promoted and supported Yep, so if we're gonna commit to this Like as a board we're saying in some way shape or form we're going to promote and support Parenting skills, so that's a To say thank you That was a good boy You say yeah, yeah, that's at our parenting skills art mode and I was saying good parent and I'm reading that Like I hear people school the district choose to To do something to yeah, it was just add that that is a nia Um required to do so one of the things we're working on is offering some more like parenting classes partnering with Hebren and agent Okay, and there's a little bit of a way, but if I roll it up and then for teachers to have like I just want to make sure that Has a law or we're saying we're committing to that That there's something that's behind it Right, yeah, so if if if this is something we're committing to we should keep calms on it We should make sure we're growing it. We're developing we're going to get into support with school and having
Is an early outreach Yeah, it is tricky So the superintendent never will develop appropriate regulations conducive to achieving a higher level of parental involvement in the educational process So then that's where we're talking about policy and regulation So we're saying that that was like we're saying it should be promoted and then we're leaving it up to the administration As to how that's followed to learn but yeah, we're saying our policy is to promote I think that's something I just want to really really enforce Yeah, that's a big thing where we're committing to that You know, there are there are parents in our community who who could greatly benefit from those kinds of programs and myself included in that And then you kind of develop in your parenting skills around how you both connect your A common environment with the screen environment, but I could deal with some really big Thing we could fall with and And while we're taking whatever we're getting through the night at a credit date and finding programs And we're all doing our school readiness councils. We're working with the princess here And we're trying part of that so try to foster some of that and get more participation with the agents
And happy to do it honestly I'd be curious just because you brought up the meeting that you guys are having in terms of mental health If any schools are using any of that to post Meetings or workshops for parents on how to talk with or work with their kids on So we actually started this summer We're including the Some of our programming for the preschool as we were making them and we are A credit in kindergarten Which no one in the area has a credit in kindergarten. It's just a credit in preschool So we got an Iac in the two preschools and then which in kindergarten? So we're in our classes here And so with that we'll come those things so whether that is when you're policy we're not Tagged in our programming because we are not ever crediting for preschool anyone who's working for Anybody have anything with a bird to 11 12 Okay 11 You I thank you for We're supposed to have a discussion about this. Last time when we used to go through policies, we would just want to understand them. So it's really important, I think, that we actually look at the language. Because we have to say, I'm trying to teach your funds. So they're helpful. And that's why I'd give her support is very useful. What's in the example of a civil school? We don't need help. We don't need help. In fact, the media access to student is my seat.
I have a really trivial, but I'm assuming on the updated one. Number nine is still parents, not we don't want there. I feel like we should move that to one. It looks actually for number one is how they at the media has to report into the school. I just did it as a following along with the progression of how media might come into the school, then what's required, then parent reaction to that, and parents being allowed to say no contact with my kid. But in general, if it's a public event or not inside the school and parents, there's subject to media attention. Here, if you want to do it, it makes it easier. It's just all under number six, instead of having you. We don't need to write it. Which that stuff hasn't come home yet this year, correct? Student language, but I'm sorry. The student hand lock where I like the media relations. So the media release went out online. Oh, most are the ones. We could book one. Those are the same as last year. I might have done it, and I don't remember. Yeah, one might get those. I don't know. We don't do that. That's the same. Oh, yeah, you too. I would try. Yeah, we got to get it. I'm not going to be good at it, and I don't remember. Yes, we have a no photo list. So it happened. She wanted to check on it. I think it's the phone now. I can send that again just in case anyone missed it. And then this year, we got to have a seven, saying, well, two out of the court parents are saying,
we should hold that together. Yeah, that's just because we do things right away. Yeah, that we get about. It was when you had this rotation. I would say that. Oh, I didn't know that. It was the same email. See, you might have done a poll. I didn't happen on the show. And then for a student handbook, we decided to fall suit with most districts. You stopped printing a million. And so we're going to post it online. And we'll get home is just something that you sign in. I don't say that. Oh, OK. You agree. Or if you, we got 10. We don't want to say no. And if somebody wants hard got the service, I'll sign it home. I think I did the reason. I think I did the reason. I think I did the reason. People should probably put it down tomorrow without it. So what will the health form become not a favor?
Never. Never. So believe it or not, that was, had some significant updates this year, simplified. I hope, I know I felt that way, but we did a lot of work on it. The know it's just that you have to stop throughout the same thing for us. Yeah, you don't. I'd fill out all the things that are generic. And then I copy it on the top here. And then you see the last way to tell them, wow. Thank you. And that's busted. That's why it's a significant amount of money. You do it via power. It's both like we're talking over 10 times. Yeah, yeah, no, you can't keep anything. So when it thought about Google, we're going to be free. But you just worry that it's, well,
they're just like it in certain information. Yeah. So I know, because we'd love to do it. I don't feel like anything is our school. Our school don't mess around with their adults. Just the reason our enrollment is still in danger. OK. That's fine. So that's all a question. And if you want to get us to read it, copy that one. And you're going to come back. Can you just hand it out to me, who's there? Thanks. So we're all a question. Yeah, on adapting these in the motion. Hopefully. I put for the motion that we do, we adapt the changes as proposed and as amended now on receiving during this meeting to policies 1,000 and 1110, 1110.1 and 1112. And Michael's seconded it. Michael's seconded it. And then I just added, as amended, during our discussion. All in favor, we've got all these with their menus. Right, aye. Aye, aye. Any opposed? Any suspension? Thanks, everybody. Thank you, thank you, Jim. Thank you for all your work. I'm not excited. Lot's of going to words. Lot of going to words. Lot of going to words. OK, next. I don't think it's time to go. Let's get to it.
We need to plan a lot. Yeah, I think we can't really manage if we work on that. Yes, yeah. I would be going. So the survey was sent out to 24 people. I've heard back from 17 at this point, which I would say is pretty good to her now, over 50% of each board and like 75% of the school or town employees that were included on that. The one day that everyone said they could attend is October 12th. Shot probably what we will set it for. No, it's a day after. It's a day after, that's a Thursday. OK, what, like, seven? So it'll be at seven. And then I don't know if it can be here or like location was what is appropriate. But the two people that I've been working with on the other two boards is Adrian and then Jordan Heaver. So between the three of us, the other feedback on that survey that was asked was like, do you have any other, you know, comments or positive feedback that would help make this a collaborative meeting on and resound any of what people commented if they did was just that it needs to have a clear agenda. And we need to stick to the agenda so that we can get along and not get stuck down tangents or start being upset with each other
because that defeats the purpose. So my hope is to work with the two of them to come up with a pretty clear agenda for that meeting just so that we can set the stage for how how the three of us as boards can work together to help our town as we go forward. Has there been any discussion on having a moderator? Yeah, I'm just kidding. People have asked for a moderator, I guess, I would and I've reached out to both Joanne and Adrian about who we would ask to be a moderator for that. And the town clerk, I think, would be a does done it before at the town meeting. And just somebody who's kind of a neutral amount on any three boards who can kind of keep us on focus if we start going out in a can. Yeah, I think that would be a good idea. Um, I don't want to talk about it. Yeah. And we just don't know location. Yeah. Didn't nail that down. And I haven't, I haven't sent an email out to to everyone included on that. Um, I just, we were, I was trying to wait to make sure that I got a significant amount of response, but we're about a month away from not right now. Okay. Um, and so far that data is still 100% so. Okay. And how many people would be participating based on your current
RSV3s? Um, so 17 people answered the survey out of 24. And all of those said that they could come out of the club. So I'm just looking at spaces for us, putting 20 people in here and it was like 24. No, the public's also invited. Yeah. So maybe we would need to do it. I mean, but, um, the earth, all you made of your house better. I don't know what has better acoustics. I don't know. We don't have any other social dynamics. We have food. Yeah. What do you say, see? It also has better initial. The community, yeah. The chairs are better. Just the chairs are a bit too short. No, part too short as well. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see. No, no, it's fine. Um, would, would you be able to ask, Carol, for me, or do you want me to reach out to her? Yeah, I think we'll take a look. I talked to her occasionally. Yeah, just like every now and then maybe. Okay. And thank you. Why are people at the education? Why are they wired? Okay. That would be the hope as goal. Yes. Be sure. Right. Well, I think I should like, yes, it would be a productive meeting. It, it needs to have that ahead of time. So I think if any of you have stuff that you want to email me individually, that you would like to be included, or if you have an idea for it, I was thinking each of the boards might come up with their own ideas about what they want to see
in the agenda. That's what I then. So that's why, try and we'll go to one one and then I'm going to be a board. That was the whole great. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. No, thank you. Yeah, I haven't marked us in 10, 12 at 7. So hopefully we can go. That's great. You want to help you. Yeah. So we do have an update on, so on our last meeting, which, which was on the special meeting, which was on August 31st, we voted to because we were told that we practically are unable to do an hours transfer. And now we, we voted to have the check cable to Constantin's and the check the town of and it says kind of hold on to that check. So I did email Eric Anderson and asked him and I can, I can
read that email. Um, the dear Eric, I hope you're doing well. I wanted to provide you with an update on the upper lot, paving project at AES. I have been informed from Terry that we will not be able to do an AC H transfer from the BOE account to the town account as we are technologically unable to do so. In light of this with the town except to check payable to Constantin's in the full amount of the school and comfort for this project. Cluster minus 125,000. We are working on getting an updated quote from Constantin's as we showed them the town specifications and requirements. I'm hopeful to get an answer soon. Once we get an update the quote from Constantin's and their agreement of the town specifications as an addendum to their quote. I will make sure that it is sent to you. Since this is now a town project will you be signing the contract with Constantin's and then can we expect the issuance of a permit. So that was on August 28th. Um, and then I did receive an email from Tim. Um, basically and I can read it. Um, he said talk to both the auditor as well as the town attorney about how we can do this legally without audit issues on attaching the towns
attorneys, legal opinion, which I think all of you, have. Um, I'm paraphrasing the conversation with the town auditor. The auditor says that these projects have to flow through the quote, normal capital process, I'm auch given that the BOS, the OF, and the OE through the project he would not flag the fact that there was no formal RFP or public meeting, however he would expect that any bids would be available for the audit. He stated he would classify this as quote an education-related capital expense, and therefore money appropriated for general education expenses could be transferred to the town for a capital project. It is still the town's responsibility for capital projects, but on the audit it would show as a capital item related to education. So we are back to AES doing an electronic transfer or writing a check to town of Andover, the town board of selectments slash board of finances already motion to put the money in the AES capital fund and expanded on the paid in project. Then the boards worked together to define a procedure going forward. The
auditor said that the possibility be funded through the 2% non-lapsing account in the future, but you are limited on how much you can put any chair and budget extra money as a part of a normal capital appropriation. That would be a poor discussion in the future. I still need any contract from Constantine to agree to agree to abide by the town's technical specifications document. So I gave him a call because there was some Constantine's wanted there's a there's a compaction range and Constantine's wanted language in there that it was a range. When I called Eric on that Valerie had given us the state of Connecticut DOT section on it. I shared that with him. He then he said, okay, get me that section. I gave him the section. He went back to the town supervisor and the town engineer and I guess there's two levels of compaction. There's like the first level of compaction and then the top level of compaction. So he did amend that and then I did send that on to Valerie to give to Constantine's. So the town will not accept to check
Constantine's. It's my understanding that Constantine's will agree to the the town's specifications. They will put language in their contract that literally says if they're agreeing to it. But we are back. The town will not accept to check Pablo Constantine's are asking the check you payable to the town. So that is the effect. Thank you so much. So we'll make a track payable to the townman. It's going to prove by every board. Well, we have to do that. We have to vote to unencumber the funds because there's a board action to unencumber the funds. So I think legally we have to vote to unencumber it. And a couple of us have issues with that. I'm open to conversation on it. Although I do have a couple of questions but I will save my foreign values. Get their questions out. I think considering that it's a capital improvement project and that it probably should have gone through the IP to get approved in the first place. Then we have been given the good grace of the other two boards for not having followed that pathway. Like I said at our special meeting regarding this, I really think we should just write the check to the town and get it done so that the parking lot is paved so that people can drop their kids off out there so that pick up and drop can be a little bit more smooth. I think we found our first agenda item for the joint meeting is to determine how these projects are going forward. And I think our lack of having a definition
of that kind of maybe let us hear. But at this point, everything else aside. It's now September the longer this gets pushed. The colder it gets. We've got people walking up the side of the hill. We get up to the parking lot. Like at the end of the day, it was our responsibility to do is get that part to a lot of things. If we need to change how we go about that event. But if we're holding this up on semantics, something we're running the check to, I think that doesn't make any sense for me. And I would be open to hear why. I honestly have struggled to wrap my head around why we wouldn't. But I think that's where we are right now, right? As a parent,
as a community member, who has their own family. We've approved the funds. It's been approved by every board and it can happen. I'm struggling to understand why we don't make it happen. And then we can fix or define policies in the future to make sure that everyone's happy with how we do it but right now we have responsibility to get that part to do it. So, please. No, I said it could last. Anybody else want to go? I just echo that my sentiment is exactly the same as these and I'm incredibly frustrated by the process right now. I feel like we're stuck on semantics and I feel like we are creating discord among our town and parents can see that and community members can see that. And it's not a good luck. And it's not good for our school and our kids. I have a question. Who will be paying for? If we didn't have this money, that groundbreaking for the side for us to do the part of our own. We're in the money from this one. We would have had to go to CDIP to the gymna. We had a bit of a town for an additional expenditure and we would now be months in making a
getting any additional expenditure. So, the other thing in our let physical last has requested it's not just semantics. It's the law. So, we're not just, I'm sorry, it's not just semantics. It's not just words here and I take laws very seriously obviously. It's the law and it's our charter that we followed. It was money that has already been budgeted into the school when we did the roof improvement. We involved everybody, but we didn't go through the whole rig and we're all that has been followed here. And I want to take issue with the fact that we're creating the discord. I think it's great. On October 12th, that this would be item number one, as to how
we'll avoid this in the future and establishing policies to go forward. But we are basically talking about giving over our right to determine what happens with our budgeted money to the board is elected to the board of finance. That's not how it's supposed to go. And that's all I'll say. I understand parent, if I were a parent, I would be very upset with how this is gone, but I want to put on the record that it has been not been our fault. It is ridiculous what has happened with regards to the denial of a permit, with regard to painting in a spot in our school that is under our jurisdiction that requires that if you don't for safety purposes and could have been done months ago before the school year even started. So I just want to put it on the record that I understand frustrations and the frustrations are not properly being directed at the Board of Education. And I'm going to echo what Shane said. Are the parent first of all? I'm myself in frustration, but the fact that we have to show everything in a lower law, and simply being out, there's not enough. That's frustrating. You can't get around the fact that that it's not need preferred option right now. But you're going back to whole scenarios. Again,
it's not semantics. It's the actual law that we have to measure if I want. Because I have this idea of a discord, look at our communications with developments into what lasts at least last November. How many times have we said we want to pump? We want to collide right. Time will we have even been officially acknowledged by the other boards? Our communications that we've gone through the proper channels with have not been officially acknowledged, they've been ignored. We are not respected. So yes, this is about a paving job, but we also have to make sure that we are respecting ourselves as a single board. If something is within our right to do, which within our jurisdiction to do, per law, then if we start backing down from that, what really is our role then should we even exist or should the town control this one? That's all I've to say. The long thing I really feel disappointed is that there's a July when the board finally No, we have to be able to do that. At the end of the day, we have to find a much better plan. The more a plan is, the more understanding that in our budget, we have no way to budgeting for these kinds of repairs. Rebellion isn't brand-new. It's going to have things that need and we can't, where we get money from, we come up with a budget, and it's our best guest of something that's going to happen if you go over there and you do the future. And it's great. How in terms of those for referendum, those tell me, and then budget is approved. Now,
there's sometimes as many left over as it is in the year. Valerie will tell you if she's gets grants, she's done a vote, a really erote job at getting money for our school, for school district art town, as a taxpayer, I can't appreciate her enough for what she brings in her money. And many of those have meaning to follow me, or they say, oh, you had this much money left over. You shouldn't give me that back to the town. And it can be one of she got ready to support some of the line items in the budget. It could mean that we didn't spend it all, but that money was approved last year. And I'm not against giving it back. But if we need it for something like that parking line, I think that it's a good thing,
maybe we should be able to go in the forest, let me know if I can say, oh, we love this money, we want to do this, can you help us out here? And we should be able to use that, as we need it for what we need. It's not a large variety. And I feel really badly that we've gone down this road. I mean, these other people who are doing these other boards are slid us. They're volunteers volunteering their time. And I'm saying if we're thanking you, thank you for calling us together. But if we can't work together, right? Like, the point is those other two boards have already said, yes, we want this to happen. We're earmarking this for this. So, at this point, in my mind, if we say, no, we're not going to write the check to the top, like, you're then basically saying, we care more about what the law says than we do about being able to work together as a community to do something that we need to have done for our school, that we have the money to do. Why would we make that decision? Because it wasn't the responsibility or the right of the board or select my order finance to oversee a determined nation that they're properly being made by the Board of Education. So, when you're talking about the roles here, it's exactly what Michael said, why should we exist? If the Board of
Selectman is going to take the entire school property as under their purview, and every one of our expenditures that has to deal with the capital fund and now even our own property has to go back to the Board of Selectman or Board of Finance, what's our role? It's literally different. It's an edgy kid. No, it's not only let me ask this question. No, it's only going to be defined. What happens when somebody not saying it would ever happen? But what happens if we now see the control of the property or the Board of Selectman, they say we're closing school? They can't do that. They can't do that. They have control property. They can't do that. They cannot do that. Satutorily, they cannot do that. Satutorily, they cannot do that. Satutorily, they can't do what they do. They cannot, you see, you cannot close this board. You cannot close this board. You cannot close this board. So, can't do that. My worry, those are when people start saying what's more important. And Kira and I kind of take issue with what you just said, what's more important, actually following the law or getting something done that we need to get done that clear. We have a approval of whatever boards are necessary. But I'm the lost important thing. I mean, come on. What are we really having a conversation? Yes, I really have a conversation. Okay, so I
just medicine every single day, day in and day out, I work on food animals. There are plenty of drugs that are not approved for use in food animals. They are illegal. Do I give those drugs to food animals sometimes? Because there's someone's pet, and that's what's going to make them get better when they're very sick, even though it's illegal? Yes, I do, because that's the only choice I have. Well, and that's fine. That's your advice. This is the same situation. My decision is that if the law says that we need to follow something, then as a board of education, that is sanction by the state, I'm talking about law. Okay, but what law are you talking about? What law are we referencing here? 10-2. Okay, because I have it. I have 10-2. I printed it out,
and I read it. Okay, so here it is, right here. Okay, if anybody wants to look at it, it's right here. Duties of the Board of Education. All the way through, and then it says right here, shall have the care, maintenance, and operation of buildings, lands, apparatus, and other property, use for school purposes, and at all times shall ensure all buildings and all capital equipment contain their end against the laws in the mountain, not less than 80% of the replacement costs. Okay, is that the law that we're talking about? Yep. Okay, all right. Did anybody watch the Board of Finance meeting from May 24? Okay, because I watched it, and I took notes on it, and I watched it, and I took notes, and I looked at their agenda, and I looked at their meeting minutes. And it talks, they discuss opening up an AES capital account to address us. They talk about, additionally discussed the separate fund for capital for school capital, safe funds towards capital plans. The Board of Education would need to provide a capital plan
before any account is established in the 24-25 budget year. Eric shared his frame with the town in attorney, and got the illegal opinion on the matter. So then Eric Anderson says that, you know, they should have a capital plan. We should look at it year to year, see IP, there's a BOE number for the charter, review it, we're supposed to be supplying a capital plan, and it has to have to go through see IP, and Mark Brinker said we should request the BOE for their capital plan. So Mark Brinker recated his motion, the Board of Finance approves the creation of a school capital improvement fund, and recommend the Board of Selectman likewise approved, also transferring the balance from the school expansion fund, which was like 10 or 15 years ago, into the newly created capital improvement fund. So they took the $8,000 that had been hanging out there for about 10 years, and they put it in this plan. And then Builder Roger speaks up, and he says, okay, the time out. If the school at the end of their budget, at the end of their fiscal year, puts money into this, can the town then say, we're going to take that money and we're going to go use it for something else, and everyone on that board said, no, they said, no, absolutely not. Absolutely now. This would be, this is for the school, and they talked about, well, who would have, you know, heard you, whatever, but Builder Roger spoke up and said, okay, so once that money goes in, they're the town can't just use it for something else. Fine. So then I watched the Board of Selectman meeting, which was on June, like, oh, excuse me, so last, my report, because I did
watch that meeting, I didn't take your appropriate notice, but my recollection is that that's not in fact what the Board of Finance ultimately voted on. It is, they created a capital who's been at your fund. Yes, that's called the, it wasn't on the account. Yeah, the, I was at that. The Board of Finance did vote to open a member of the council. Yes, and to take the 8,000 from the general fund of the Board of Selectman's account and move it over. When it went to the Board of Selectman meeting, the Board of Selectman or voted to open an account that would be overseen by the Board of Finance and to the Board of Selectman, they never opened a new account. What they're asking for is for that money to now be put into that existing, like you just said, old line item of the general fund, which is overseen by the Board of Selectman. I disagree. That's right here. Discuss creating capital fund for and over elementary school that account was so. But at their next meeting, specifically, both Celeste and I asked the question of we need to talk about the creation of this capital improvement fund. And Mark specifically said, yes, we do. But right now, we need to cave your parking lot. Let's get this done and then we'll address that. How long does it take to open a bank account? I don't think that that have purviewed to this conversation
right now. It doesn't. But this fund exists. And in my reading of this, it exists. It created a capital fund. They did not do it. Number one and number two, it exists not through the Board of Education. It exists through the town of the Board of Selectman. That's not what we asked the Board of Finance to do. We asked the Board of Finance to create a capital, my understanding. A capital fund, much like the two percent non-lapsing account, that would then be ours to use for capital expenditure. Well, that's not, and we're not here to go exactly. And then the account wasn't opened. So once again, we're dealing back with the purview of the Board of Education, the Board of Finance, and the Board of Selectman. And I would like to explain now. So now I will speak. So and we operate it. But when we, when we encumbered that money for the repair of the parking lot, we were in last year's fiscal year. And we would pull the money out of operational funds. We were operating well within Connecticut General Statute within our capabilities. So why did we stop there? So because here's what happened. When we originally made the request, all of a sudden, oh, it's a planning and zoning product. Planning and zoning said, nope, no, no,
it's a wetland's problem. That was said, oh, no, ours. Then all of a sudden, we now, since we've passed those two hurdles, we came up with this list of all the list of other things we had to do. Great. We got that done. Now we've said, okay, well, why should check Constantines? And the other did not say that we couldn't do it, that if you watch the meeting from the other night, this is a work already. My frustration. And again, I understand, I am so, I'm so annoyed by the fact that it's so hard to get this bloody parking lot done. I had a steam while to put it in myself. Anyway, my frustration is that we followed the law. We followed the proper process.
We followed the proper charter. And I have asked, and no one has told me what is within town to be in dover, what is the bloody freaking definition of a capital project? Point me to something in writing that says a capital project is over this amount. I believe it's over $5,000, but I don't know if that in fact is outlined in the charter. That's what we have used at CIP. It's $3,000. It's $3,000. I'm the website. It's $3,000. So now, any time we buy, that's a capital item. Any time we buy bleachers, capital item. Any time we buy deaths, capital item. That's all those are all capital items now. That in my mind is a challenge in the problem, because now that effectively takes control of the school outside of our realm of responsibility, and some less than in case I get it. I understand. My other concern is, and you said it in their expressage. It's a capital project, but it could come out to percent non-lapse and fun. No, no, you can't see in that message. If you read that message, she's talking about in the future. She means in the future. You didn't mean he said in the future when we're looking, again, I think we need to divide the process following this, but we can't go to January with people walking up the damn hill, it's all in down and doing us because we didn't do our job. We keep making up rules as we go. My understanding. I get it because we don't have it. My
body, I don't have a 2% loss account is it cannot be used for capital things. That is not what it's for. It's for the definition of the account. But yet, all of a sudden, that's not for that's a different option for the future. And I agree, going forward, we should go through CIP, but we operated within our responsibility, our rule of control, as of when did we make that about May? Yeah, you are 10. You're 14. We were still in the school year. If it had been July 15, whatever, July being the ones that we made it, I would agree. We were completely out of our budget season. We were outside of our scope of control, but the vote we made in June was well
within our scope of control and within our operational responsibility. And there's case all states that. So, I don't know what we do. What do we do? What do we do? What do we do? What do we do? We're running out of time as far as paving. We don't know when we're going to get our casting schedule just because they agreed to it. If we say yes today, they could say, oh, now we have no good projects. Right. And we've closed it for safety reasons. Make a motion. I'm going to move that we approved to change the check value. Somebody can make an amendment to 120 or whatever the actual number is. We're able to count a band over as indicated in Eric's in the city manager's email to complete the paving project. Can I add to that? Please. So, just, and Terry, crack me. You have to unencomber it and then okay, and we have to come for some from us here. How does that happen? It's been a good moment. It's been a good moment. So, yes, it's still encumbered. And that's okay. And once I create the check. It's still going for the same sense. The same expense. So, when we follow all the paper, it's going to be to pay the parking lot. Right. Well, I think, which has already been approved by the order finance and the order segment to use 120,000 hours to do so. Well, I think if we vote to unencomber that amount, it would automatically fall back into luck. There were funds from last year, which would have been a lot of matters. But do we have to unencomber? Because there's a number of different
parking lot projects, which it is still being designated to. This is a tree. I think we have to vote to unencomber it. Because we voted to encumber it is the board. I think we have to vote to unencomber. I mean, what do we vote to unencomber? What was the language in on what we voted to uncomber it for? It was just to be unencombered. For the naming projects. So, we're sending it into the town for the naming project, which takes art, because they've already approved that fountain. It has to be unencombered. At the money, at the arts, Niel says, and as he said on Monday night, you have to give that money back. They have to put it in their general fund. And then they have to spend the money. It becomes their money first. That's what has to happen. So, that means that our budget is literally spent $125,000 less. So, keep that in mind.
We will have a surplus at the end of the year going into the next budget season. I know, I don't, I think does that make sense to me? Because I've watched these, these meetings, and they have established this account, which I think has not opened a new account. I don't, it says right here, established a capital fund for AES. They said they're going to do it for us, but they never did. But the auditor, so in the auditor, you're saying that that is incorrect when they have said. Yes, I spoke to the auditor after Monday night's meeting. And I said, can you tell me what it is going to do? And he said, and did anybody watch Monday night's meeting? It's literally one minute that your speaks about it. So, if you don't mind, I'll get it up on your show. If the auditor was asked since all three words, I would read to this, how do we move forward with moving the money from the school to the town legally? The Eric says, out here, that the auditor said, well, the more we do it this way, it's not how you do it. But if you want to do it, the school has to give him back to you as
a surplus. That money has to go into your general fund on the town side. You then claim it as an expense that's an educational expense, and you pay the bill. So, our audit when it gets done now will show us surplus of $125,000. So, however, everything still. And then it will show exactly what it goes for. It's not always done at the parking. And I'm going to say it, because I guarantee you it'll show the happens. Your solar project is going to get phone home. What set? Why, there's not a semester in solar, what I'm going to go to? What about the infrastructure at the improvement? That's it. Well, then we go through the process and make them publicly say that we're not going to do something to save the town, 35,000. What I don't care about, even with the solar project, what I am, and I know it's not, you said inconvenience. I mean, I know people are walking and you can correct me if I'm wrong. Tell me I'm wrong. People are walking up this hill. We're got a differential downpours. When somebody falls down the hill and gets hurt,
are we all still good sitting here saying, yep, this is what we want to do? I'm not. When that starts to ice over and they're walking up, because that's where our main offices are so good. I'm not. This is part of the night of the case ranges. That's where the measure is area. I don't know if I have this part, because we're on the top. The answer, I'm going to try to hear a link to a little bit of my important education related to the parking lot. We did. I got all the legal opinion from Dennis and I got a, I had a lot of conversation with the author, and then today again with the pressure of how we can hear it. The bottom line is the auditors said, even though we're not exactly following our own purchasing procedure to do this, we said essentially, the board of education was signed off on it, the board of select and the board of finance and signed off on it. So, you know, he wouldn't issue us uninvited, you know, for transferring money. He basically said in the way he views it is that that is an education related, capital expense, and so it's the
balance obligation, because it's a capital project, but it could be funded by a transfer from the elementary school. So, if you want to do so, okay with it, and as is the town's attorney, as long as the money is transferred back to the town, to the general fund, and then the board's already agreed to go back to the capital fund for EES, just to decide. So, don't move to the capital fund. Fair capital fund. In their general fund, it is not another. He just said the AES. Maybe it's a capital fund for EES. That is, you look at the audit. That is that money that's existed on the town side since the expansion. Right. There was 8,000 in there. That's not our money. That's their line item in their general fund. That's existed there, as you said. For anyone believe that they're going to take this $120,000 and that they've partnered up? No. No. No. But that's not the concern of Steve. I mean, that really is not mine. I mean, I'll speak for myself. That's not my concern, because then the bad life.
Okay. So, if you guys are saying you're going to vote no, when you don't want to write the check and you want to stick your feet in the mud and stand there strong, what do you propose as an alternative? As a go-forward to get this parking lot page? I don't know. So, until you have a good alternative that will get this parking lot paid, they don't understand how you can vote to not do that. So, I'm going to go back to my original movement if you've got a second. I don't know if there was an amendment, but I'm going to vote that we can transfer the money to the town. I'll second. There's your latest question. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We've had a lot of discussion already. Well, I understand everybody's issue here. I think I did. And I guess he both saw it. But the one thing that I would probably say, and in the summer, people walking up to them and having one's body down here, right? Hi. I think we did. What happened in part? Just open it up. We used the last few like this. We'll use it this year, wasn't it? But Jerry, not to interrupt you. With all due respect, we publicly said that the parking lot is not safe. So, now we open it back up and all the sudden it's safe. We haven't done anything. Can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that. I don't know. When it's required to walk up and down, then. I was just going to say it. I was going to put that out of the field. I mean, it's been a long time. They haven't had it. They haven't had it. It's not a one in the safely.
I don't know if people enter the building. So, during mid if it's arrival and dismissals down here in normal hours, however, the student is late or you see picked up early, they pull right up to the front. In that top lot, because security-wise, we need to buzz them in the way we would tip like this. For the top lot doesn't say that you can go in there. There's a bunch of cones and everything. Yeah, but it has that one opening parents are aware. So, it does say like, all does say, yeah, how much is it? How much feedback have you received from parents and other people of us are asking about, it's very limited. I will be honest, there's been two emails about our or one about arrival, one about dismissal and just some concerns, and then asking them when it would be open. You know, I think most people are aware that it's not necessarily a me,
you decision, you know, that I'm not kind of in the driver seat of it. So, I have not heard a lot. Certainly, you know, people are getting used to our new system, but we're keeping it in relative time-wise, really, we're at that point. And we adjusted for Google. So, I just wanted to say publicly, no one's required to welcome down the hill. Of course, I, you know, I can't control every movement of what people decide to do, but during the school day, if a visit or needs to come into the building for summaries in, we go ahead and go up to the parking lot, we need to clear them to say. Correct, our security. Also, there's no time to need to open up a bank account. And I think that if they opened up the bank account, as we would totally avoid that last spring,
and we just do what we wanted to do, but in that bank account, let me spend it out of there. That's what I think. But that's what's in the stuff of the bank. I mean, if I go and walk into a bank to tomorrow morning, it's going to be down. We have an account that says EES capital expenditure fund with the 125,000 dollars in it, and we pay the check to constrictings. And therefore, it's not the tax money. It's still our money. We don't have to do anything with regard to we'll never get the permit. We'll never get the permit. We'll never get the permit. Then who's that up to Celeste? That's it. That's the secret. That's the secret. That's the secret. We'll never get a permit. We're right back where we started. Who's fault is that? Yeah, move the motion. I vote to break the check. Get it done. No. No. No. No. I think you're the typewriter, Jerry. I personally don't feel good about the way it is now. I would really like to see if it can come to
the limit when we're down. I start pushing that account. It doesn't take long. You put the money into the account. And if they want to give us a bill, this is all said and done, give us a bill. We'll make it out. Is it time? Can we do that? We can't. We got to spend it very quickly to pay the bill. I think we'll never get out from under. And I think we'll never get our account unless we insist on it. Well, then let's insist on it. I mean, I don't even try to work on this. I'm like, are we approved? Yeah, whether or not they create a group. There's a policy that Eric sent us about it. That I looked at that we that that we as a board never, never, never, ever addressed. So there is there is this policy that Eric sent to us about how he said, this is maybe how you could start it. But we, but we as a board never talked about it. So I feel like we're also at fault that we never pushed to have this account formally opened. But it is, it's been made publicly that this money is going to be used for this project. And then going forward, let's put together a policy
on how this, this account will go forward. But but to now hold this project up because this account doesn't technically exist. It's, they've talked about it. They've, they've, everybody wants this to be done. Everybody. Okay, fine. I'll change my vote. Yes. I'm done. Good. No, I mean, I've done. I'm, I'm off anyway in November. So there you got what you want. That's, that's not the point, president. And you shouldn't be taking that position quite frankly. I'm, I'm not doing it. We're not, we're not, we're not going forward. I'm not stopping my feed and making a big deal. But what I'm trying to, to tell people here is that the town, the board of ad, the board, the board of, the board of, the board of, the board of, the board of finance, they want, they want this account. They, they, they want to work with us. I mean, I've watched those meetings. I took notes. They wanted, they, they want, they, they want us to give them a capital improvement plan. We did that in the past. We handed them a capital improvement plan. I went through meeting notes from from 2017 where, where we handed the board of finance and the board of selectman, a capital improvement plan. Why can't we do that again? We used to do that. What we do is that it's a question. It is as biased. They're not a capital improvement account for a number of elementary school. And why, if it was approved in May, why do I have any
information on this account? Because I don't think we ever agreed on a policy, Terry. That's why. And we didn't press it. And that's, we asked for it to less. That's the only reason we didn't press for it. We didn't press it. It was approved. It was approved. The board was a fine answer. Can I see that? It's not that important. We have to read the account. But there's what Eric said to us. That was the policy. That's a draft policy that he sent us. Are we, are we done voting, then? Or you know, we never go voting. We're going to ask for a vote. I mean, in all good faith, Valerie asked for this account in the spring.
And in other respect, the motion is already to a vote. We're going back and forth on the same. Jeremy, what's your vote? I mean, I had changed my vote. So we're good to go. You to vote however you wish. I don't know. All right. Okay. I will accept you the however, though, when it's perfect. By sensing the rule, we're really, we're in. So just looking at this celestial sleep, we're very clear and put it on the record. These funds shall be maintained. It's paragraph three. These funds for the non-lapse and capital fund and two percent non-lapse and education fund shall be maintained for capital expenses for annual relevant school and shall follow the town of purchasing policy that was enacted last December. That's the problem. Okay. But wait, this is the first time we've already discussed. I wasn't done. Thank you. Then you look at our charter. Section 805, 806, and 807 all say excluding the Board of Education. So we're either going to follow our charter and we're going to follow the laws that apply to the only board that is statutorily required in this town which is the Board of Education or we're not. And that's the first item of discussion and I'm done too.
We're doing that. We're doing that. We're doing that. We're doing that. We're done. So yeah. That you ordered for that was a draft done. That was a draft council. So it was a draft. He's right. No, this is the policy right that he's proposing and therefore it's all back No, no. No, no. He's not. He didn't. He's not. I'm done. There's nothing. Hey, there's nothing on the table. Done. Discussions over. We had our vote. It's not on the agenda. For the end of the board, further and forth. No, ZIP didn't mean last one. It didn't mean. I don't have a word for them. It's for the veterans. Can I just ask a question? Did the motion pass? And what is the next steps? We issue a check to the town of Ando. Thank you. We have a quote from Constantine with a guard. I have money and comfort from the last quote I had, which I believe was one twenty two. If it's more than that, then they're all I'm sending them. That's what we have in Comber. Well, the other only I was asking in that guard chair was, I don't know what we had with subsequent quote with regard to all of the other requirements at the town of Putana. I haven't seen any of those. I haven't seen a new quote. So we're sending what was quoted, I guess. Okay. And what we agreed to in Comber from our last fiscal year. Which I think was up to 125,000. Was that 125? Yes.
I believe it wasn't even at 125 at that point. I think it started at one seven. Hill, and it was shown that one passed was doing constant off to one five. Yeah, I didn't comfort everyone. I think that's what we've passed on board. So I'm listening here. There's no whatever you're well within it until we have an updated quote from Constantine to incorporate all the town's requirements. I don't think is you can write a chat. I'll talk to Valerie and I thought we could have heard. Thank you. I'm going to read the public moment and I get any more of it. I'd like to go back to the talk about the curriculum changes and some of the other changes that have happened this year, especially with the younger kids. I think that Taylor and Val really have a great view of what we need to do for those little kids. And I think it's going to reward us well. So thank you. That's your being here. Break. Three are you there? Anything you can go back to? Okay. Nothing at this time. Thank you. Thank you. Good evening. Thank you all for your time. I love that see the curriculum
conversations happening and the numbers that we're putting up performance wise. Thank you all for your hard work and supporting our students. And as someone who is just a parent is it appropriate for me? Can I make a comment on the paving situation? I see both sides of the coin as well. However, as a parent solely and a member of the community, I think that you guys did the right thing in passing the motion to fund the project because unfortunately, I think that you've got to give the board a select man, the opportunity to bury themselves. I mean, if they don't do what they've promised to do, then the constituents need to
just be aware of what's happening. And then we can move in the future to vote in a different direction. I know that was a struggle. I was with you guys on the journey. And I thank you for taking you look at all angles. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for your comments. Sorry. No, I think what I see here today is that there's some clear relationship building that needs to happen between all boards in the town. And I hope that you're upcoming submit or meeting can read some of those gaps. Thanks. Thank you very much. I'm Melissa. All set. Thank you. Thanks, Melissa. Can I ask you a question? Are you the public invited for that meeting? Yeah, I'm happy to be here. They have to be. Again. Okay. Thank you. Thanks for running. I'm coming meet. Other action I really, I'm coming meeting. We're dealing board meeting. It's October 11th. And it's 23. And then we can sort of have our three board meeting on the following days. Yeah. Yeah. One other thing that is 95% Yeah. One other thing I don't remember if either of you mentioned it. The the back to school night. Yes. Next. Okay. Just so that every one of the wear of rams is also that same night. Hi, so yes. The high school. Yes.
I don't know in the future if there's a way to have those not conflicted, be really awesome to have those of us that have to be at both. We do, yes, we do try and the best we got this year was at least not in the school. We're more of our families have both kids, but I hear you on that with us. I mean, I don't share this meeting. I'd like to thank you all for showing respect and trying to be nice to each other. I know it's emotional and it's a frustrating thing. And I think we're all feeling the same things about it. And I appreciate your efforts and
thank you. And I think we'll be able to work with you.