time follow the order and and wans and water purses commission meeting for January 6 2025 like we usually do our commissioner just introduce m Maron R you want to add one thing to the agenda this Planning and Zoning webinar this going to be happening March 22nd this year anybody discuss this we need to vot that in you yeah add it this I move to add this into the do seven is that new business yeah probably other yeah and minutes from December 2nd I didn't see anything make a motion to approve the minutes from December 2nd hi public comment do we have anybody here that wants to make the statement or okay so now we're on the permit application
IWC 2412 Robert and Pamela mayor five Sunset Lane replacement of existing 5 foot by 16t wood dock with a 4ot by 16 aluminum and composite same location and anything wanted to just I me it's pretty straightforward pretty straight forward that is pretty straight forward I I'll make a motion to approve the application iww C2 24-12 second I don't know sorry sorry yeah I it's just yeah got to go through this there's nothing really I was going to ask you though if you were going to Anchor the dock you anchor those do I mean right now it's just sitting on center block so I was going to just do the same thing okay if that's permissible yeah just curious more than yeah I don't see any reason to Anchor it but I the only reason I would think of is is if we have a B I don't not Anor in a in a situation when there was a storm if it was anchored it might there might be more pull and more damage if it LO I know yeah I mean if it's gonna be something that b would probably just pull it out of the water yeah that way it's easier if it's not anchored we can just pick it up right right easier to let's hope we ride out storm yeah yeah I was always curious about that because I see the lake sometimes like pretty rough sometimes yeah guys get yeah yeah for sure yeah inor thank you we're good to go I'll send you per
okay so let's go to permit application IWC 2413 the Andover field committee Veterans Memorial Field work in the Upland review area to construct work think illustrious not but not industrious that all right so you've had an application before you for a permit for work in the Upland review area basically to accomplish a series of things the first is to construct a three pickle ball court or a court that accommodates or a playing surface that accommodates three separate pickle ball courts the second is a construction of a playground that consists of two areas one area for kids of the like three to five age range and one for bigger kids and then with the potential for us installing a pavilion also this plan also entails trenching across Riverside Drive to put a water spigot in electrical outlet where the softball fields are on Riverside Drive so all those much of that will occur in the Upland review area which is why we're here before the commission with the application what when is this going to be constructed so that's a good question
there's State funding involved so there are an awful lot of regulatory hurdles the assumption is sometime in late spring Public Works will do the excavation for this project followed by the contractors probably pickle ball courts first then playground then fencing you know not sure exactly when we're going to do the trenching but we have a little more flexibility because we're going to be using public works to do most of the site work so that would be fall out of the range of the wood turtle problem or issue not problem so one of the things that was there was I believe in his letter Hank gave us a time frame at which he wanted the silk fence installed it would be Our intention to have the silk fence installed regardless of where we are in the in time frame starting the rest of the construction to have the sil fence installed at the appropriate time into his specifications which is basically a continuous set of Sil fence facing the river with turn backs at either end so that any turtles that end up following along the fence line will get
redirected back away from the construction site so yeah that's really that our goal is to minimize any potential Wetlands impacts and also this was designed in such a way because there is a Wetlands directly behind the area in which we're working that we are neither adding nor subtracting water flow to that Wetlands because we don't want to dry out the wetlands and we don't want to make it wetter than it is today so the sight water that's getting there now will continue to be directed there and but no additional water will be directed there and no water that's going there now will be directed somewhere else if that makes
ense I guess we a flood plane you really can't add or take away got to keep try to keep it moving well you can take away material from the flood plane but you can't add more fill than exists in the flood plane now so if you look at the Topography of the map you'll see from the original and it's the version that's online is easier to see but there is a fair bit of cutting involved in other words the banks for the parking areas are moved back and are squared off so there will be a net reduction of material in the flood plane right so there will be very slightly more storage capacity after we're done than before but it's a very small amount because you know we're going to be elevating the area where the pickle ball courts are slightly and we're reducing the bank slightly so there's a net loss but not so in other words there's a net gain of storage volume in the flood plane which is what what is kind of required we're not looking to mitigate that by taking material away somewhere else on the site you know we're going to deal with this site so that right there you know there's no loss of flood plane so I I did go over there just to take a look at it does drop deep down and then goes then you got that burm right along the river correct corre dropping spot is that the wet one you're talking about yeah so if you start on
Riverside Drive you roll you can see what where is used for parking now even though it's not really established as a parking area then you roll into a flat area which was where they excavated gravel in the past and then behind that there was a burn that was put there as part of the original Dyke in the 1930s when the dam there used to be an old Dam back there on Town property that's still visible from town property that was breached in that breached in 38 or was that breached in 50 there used to be a water retention area passed there 55 and then that also fed the where Public Works is now used to be a water powerered mill so that Dam fed through a series of channels and powered The Old Mill there and then dropped back into the river but that's that's been breached for many years and the town has no intention of building the dam back so that retaining but what that retaining wall does is it prevents except under extreme conditions for the water flowing over the retaining wall and getting into the area where the pickle ball courts are so that area where the pickle ball courts are can flood and does flood on occasion not every year but certainly every two or three years that lower area does flood and it drains slowly because it
doesn't have a direct path out of there so it has to soak into the ground gravel and dispersed that way so it comes up very slowly and it goes down very slowly but it doesn't see any real flow it might under a real 100e storm you know or 500 year storm event but not that you know any of us have ever seen really in our lifetimes there if that makes sense but yeah the area directly behind that gravel area you see it quickly turns to Wetlands there and that was you know what's on the map is accurate because those Wetlands were flagged and that's staying there yes correct it's shown yeah it's right kind of where the brush line is right behind the construction area of the project so you see where the pickle
ball courts are and then you see the thick dash line thick Dash lines is it's kind of in the woods like when you're looking in the brush area that's not cleared yeah that's the where the Wetland is it's kind of from the back of the cleared area to the segment right would it be possible to get the wetlands in the Upland review area put on the drawing so the wetlands is is on the drawing yeah it's gonna say wet is there on there I'm not sure what your yeah yeah this is the the Wetland that is in Project area I couldn't
ell yeah the wetlands are are on the mapping and they were flaged by a okay but isn't isn't the reason we're here because the the work is in the Upland review area correct so why wouldn't we show the Upland review area on the map well because we're ulating that the entire project is within the Upland review area we're not claiming just a portion of the whole thing I got it I just okay I mean specifically if you want a map that shows a 200 foot boundary from the wetlands indicating it's an Upland review we could provide that I'm just not sure what it just wasn't intuitively obvious looking at the D work you know we say that where it is since it's the Inland Wetlands commission you would think we would show the wetlands in the Upland
review area that's the reason we're coming to get the get the permit sure well I mean we are showing the weapons on the the plan [Music] yeah I mean the the the full plan is online in the wetlands file so you should have access to that really the only reason we gave this one out because one of the things we realized we were missing that was critical is a you know a stock pile area Y and we just wanted to make sure that you were aware that any stockpile area we have on site will be located within the the fencing outline so we shouldn't have any problem with siltation and stuff getting into the river or anything like that that's all we're we're really trying with this how long is the stock plan to stay there that's a good question I don't think we're going to need it there very long but like for instance when we're replacing so what's going to happen is
is and we've dug a couple test pits in the area so we have a pretty impressive thickness of good gravel under that area already so we don't need to replace a lot of the existing material because all we would be doing is taking one set of bank run gravel that's under there and replacing it with different Bank Run gravel from our fit so really we're probably just going to take the existing organic surface Material off of there and replace that with gravel and then put on a layer of what's called process and process is basically just crushed stone with fine because that compacts a lot better and holds up
better kind of under wet conditions and then pave on top of that okay so we actually this the stock pile generally speaking is just for the material we're going to be removing from there and taking off site now a lot of this we can put directly into our trucks like when we peel off the top soil where the playgrounds are going you know that I would presume we would peel off and put directly into trucks as opposed to putting into a stock pile and then Trucking it off site so we should have fairly minimal stock piles on site but they'll always be some you know so where that stock pile is located here that's going to be paved where that little circle is no that that's going to be that's just a temporary holding area for materials okay so so once desktop what's going to be is that going to be like grass grass area so presumably we're going to restore this whole thing with grass after we're done that's the that's the gold the top soil in SE it parking is going to be just along Riverside Drive correct that's seeing in it's areas that there's parking now the
only thing we're really doing is we're taking the pervious gravel that's there now essentially flattening it off and getting it so the water flows correctly ly and then Paving that local area so we will that will increase the impervious surface there U but that runoff will be directed you see on the side of the at the top of the drawing you you'll see a little leakoff pad the majority of that water is designed to run straight to the leakoff pad and then behind the leakoff pad will be a sale or a level spreader that's just designed to slow down the infiltration rate and C capure the sediment coming off of it but that water will all be directed back into the wetlands where it's going now it just you know the the goal here is to put the
same amount of water back and just use the linear spreader to treat so you're not pushing a lot of sediment into that why we choose to pave the parking instead of leave at the pervious gravel that it's there now ell that's a good question I mean I think generally paved parking areas look better and hold up better one for the the disability spots as well so there are 8 spots as well so the fluidity of that space has the handicap spot there as well in the playground area in it's the walkways are also paved just to eliminated jaaz so do we know what the square footage of impervious surfaces that we're adding between that and the pickle B works we do I could certainly walk upstairs and get that number for you if
you wanted it don't need it right this minute I gu know that there are some issues when we get to planning and zooming that discuss mitigating impervious Services if we're in excess of I think it's 2 don't know if we're there or not the only other thing I would be concerned with kind of going out Paving is the salt application in the winter time just because of that close to the wons yep did you guys have any plan for that or the goal is the majority of the water gets directed to that leakoff pad and behind that is a Swale with with the gold being the water to infiltrate directly as opposed to you know just run straight down into there but to be perfectly honest I mean any salt on Riverside Drive right now is sheep flowing into that weapons anyway so we're not really changing that a whole lot and more than likely that parking lot I would question whether we really even need to plow at in the winter because to be honest we're not planning on plowing the pickle ball courts
because that destroys the surface so and you're probably not playing soccer in the middle of the winter so there's not going to be a whole lot of use of that facil facility in the winter so I'm not sure it really even needs you know any kind of significant salt application I'm okay with that is there any other parking besides just like going to be like 20 spots correct so I mean I know there's some yeah if you think about that site all total there are essentially like three main parking areas there's this one which is going to end up more formalized when we're done there is all the area along Riverside Drive like if you watch soccer grains you see everybody parks on the grass right down there directly and then there's the the major other parking area at that's accessed off Long Hill because this is a combined site and we have combined uses we're looking at parking for the whole area right we do currently like if you watch when Vale East was using the facility between changeovers of soccer games they were utilizing pretty much every single space in that entire facility including all of this but I think with Veil out of the picture now I don't think you're going to get cases it's in other words we're not designing this to have you know three pickle ball courts in use all the playgrounds in use the Pavilion in
use and the soccer field all in use at once we're we're planning for enough parking so that between the three lots you know sharing parking there's enough that's what that's what we're gearing this towards I was this what I was asking the overflow parking basically is on the grass yeah exactly and it does it does fit under the town's regulations for total parking capacity based on an athletic field with this athletic use of this ort I didn't see anything in the plan that talked about a meeting between the people that were going to do the work and maybe the weapons agent and the zoning agent before it and I think that might be helpful to make sure that the people they're going
to do the work actually know what the plan is you know whether it's a pre-evolution brief or just the opportunity to have Joe and Jim talk to the people that are going to be doing the work I don't see that being a problem I mean the the plan at this point is to have Public Works do all the excavation and all the trenching for conduit so I'm sure we can you could make it a condition of approval for both agencies and we'd be happy to comply with that inde y it's just we've seen in the past we've had really nice plans and the people that are out doing work don't have any clue that the plans exist and they're are doing their own thing I don't think that would be the case here but you know we have seen that and it's been it happens it happens the the past n requires or sort of suggesting that as well you know and so we would here to with approval we're waiting for an n will be updated and we would adhere to that as well I'm not familiar with that abbreviation with NDP National diversity data base okay so and then Joe would we expect some kind of periodicity for inspections of the work going on just to make sure that it's complying with the plan I I mean you could put that you could add that condition if you wanted to what do you think would be a good care should on
there I have tent if you want to just I don't know you can do every I've seen every two weeks on other tournaments okay I was thinking every week might be nice yeah you can do that too it doesn't I mean set the camera whatever you feel watch the whole La you know and you think that sounds ridiculous but you the I go back to the the house that we built you know 422 Lake Road where you know they were out it had the whole driveway it put in through the wetlands they were supposed to have talked to you and Jim before they started never did you know and it was kind of a a rough start to that project and we've had that on other ones too
where we haven't been out taking a look so I know at Hank's letter he's asking for a weekly inspection to make sure there's no turtles in his little benon [Music] area I guess you could probably do both of those at the same time I don't know if you're the guy who's going to grab the turtle and try to get it out of there if find what or not but Hank's asking if somebody go out there and inspect a weekly and so I think that would be a good time to go just make sure we're getting what we inspect what we xpect think about are these bushes here right next to the parking no those
are existing Boulders oh Boulders we're just showing Our intention is to use the existing landscape bers and just move them back because right now there's a much bigger gravel area than there needs to be so we're moving them back making the minimal parking space necessary to be safe and then realigning The Boulders and cutting the material behind that which is why we have no net fill when we add the courts and Elevate the courts that do you expect to have to add any Shrubbery do any of that kind of stuff afterwards or is this not really planning on it you know obviously one of the concerns is that where the edge of the Woodline is next to the wetlands that is getting pretty overgrown with invasiv I was going to offer the wetlands commission if you guys want we will clear some of the invasions as part of the project but we certainly don't have to so it's just a question whether that's something that you guys want as a commission or don't want be that certainly I think we could go either way yeah there's all the way through there yeah pretty narrowly be much more the aesthetic yeah if you want that cleaned up as part of a project you know the town wouldn't have an issue with that just make that a condition and we'll put it right in in our yeah You probably all saw we did have a meeting with Hank Bruner obviously the the concerns from Wetlands perspective regarding lightning and we kind of worked out of compromise for you saw in this letter he asked for both a maximum color temperature of Light which we're happy to abide by as well as a stipulation that the liting
gets shut off after a certain period and again that is fine by us our intention is not to light it unless it's it's actually in use and I would also say that with the parking areas and this is going to be something we would have to discuss with the zoning commission but we would certainly prefer to turn the lighting off after a certain period of time and just not light any of that area after say 11 p.m. but it is a parking area and it's going to be a lit parking area so that's going to take a the zoning commission would have to give us permission to do that but that would be my goal anyway that don't want to light any more than I have to and light it any longer than I have to has going say like some parks say dusk you know that Park is closed yeah the the only obviously if you do that you don't need lighting to begin with right true right but there's two things one is you lose quite a bit of time in the fall when it gets dark earlier and it's still perfectly temperature-wise playable outside so we want to preserve the ability in the pickle ball pts to be able to use that after dark and also in the summer when it's really hot it's awfully nice to play late you know when it's starting to
cool off a little bit and lighting also allows to do that so that is the the goal with lighting the pickle and it can be changed I mean if you saw an abundance of use at night I'm sure people would complain you know there's no lighting or whatever I mean it's something that could be changed right as needed yeah I I don't think that Our intention is not to have people play and pickle ball on midnight leagues or anything I think we can establish a hard cut off time you know for lighting there and then sequence the lights of the parking lot lights whatever that time period is the parking lot lights automatically go off 15 minutes later essentially so you know CU once you're done playing we're not really encouraging sit around and drink beer out there there so so are the lights just for the pickle ball so there's the pickle ball courts will be lit and the walkway will have to be lit per our regulations and then the parking area will be lit not the soccer yes not the soccer field no the soccer field lighting itself absent anything else is a$ 400 plus thousand project just for soccer field lighting and it would have chewed up too much of our total project budget if we were going to do that we would have basically done the soccer field lighting and probably not anything else and the commission felt that the first priority really was the playground and the second priority was the pickle allall Court we clearly have enough money and capability to do both those and the lighting so that's our intention anything you want to add into the process you covered question I don't think so they still still pulling over you know the paving
of the apartment spots as opposed to the gravel like we have on the different accesses to the rail trail in that I don't know you certainly if you're going to plow it having a pave surface is good if you're not going to plow it I'm not sure I'll get another chance to think about that go forward well the issue is that if you're you have a fair amount of water there and you either redirect that directly as surface run off to the side or you let it all flow through and you do more of a more indepth Interceptor trench because all that water that soaks into that gravel there eventually runs down and under where the pickle ball quarts are there so you know there's there's advantages and disadvantages resistable ways but you can't put in curbing unless you're going to pave it and the goal was to intercept that water there and on the road and get that away from the pickle ball court as opposed to letting it
travel subsurface and intercepting it before it gets to the pickle ball court and the the playground committee is really focusing on the the playgrounds to be Ada compant they want to be able to accommodate anybody that is that wants to be able to use the playgrounds and just offs us from the parking lot to the playgrounds also creates a hurdle for the caregiver trying to be able to utilize the space however by some chance you decided you wanted to require us to maintain this largely as an impervious surface we could certainly consider only Park you know Paving the first three or so handicapped spots and the walkways and leaving the rest gravel if that was your or for that matter considering requiring perious pavement but that's an expensive proposition now is that what these little circles are that go around the playground thing is that the impervious papers there or whatever so yeah in speaking with Public Works so we wanted to be able to have access around on the playground just because there's the walking paths over there so
if there's any work that needs to be done over there by public work they need to be able to get there so we also so with this area also being PR to flooding at different times of the year we wanted to make sure there was some type of s sturdy surface for vehicles to be able to drive it and around we've considered the impervious pavers that are filled with either a dirt or gravel or even a geog grid that you would put underneath the the the grassy area and you'd fill it up with sand they usually like four to six inches thick and then they actually plant grass on it and it just stabilizes it so it doesn't rut if it's really squishy so yeah that's not intended this portion that's in the check that you see on your plans that's designed to be a pervious material we're looking at a couple of different options probably we're going to go with geog GRE just because it's considerably less expensive and Public Works can
install that themselves and that's a fully pervious material and obviously the playgrounds will be fully perious the impervious surface is basically the courts potentially the parking area and where the Pavilion would go because that's going to have a roof on it and that will likely be a concrete slab yeah I didn't have any other questions help me out here a little bit the conditions that we wanted to that are are conditioned I think there was one for sure the weekly meeting meeting prior to prior to the 48 hours prior to the start of the work 24 hours before 48 48 Hours 24 probably be good for that's harder to schedule then weekly inspections and who are you spef who do you want to specify at that meeting the contractor yeah the guys who were actually doing the work okay which you know like the public works for a lot of it sure I'm interested in having Jim and Joe there I would imagine you would be there too so Inland W agent and CEO and Hank probably that sounds good
yeah and looking at that kind of the pre-evolution brief somebody goes through and briefs what we're going to do and hopefully that matches up with what the plan is and then when we go out and see it we don't see something totally different hen the third condition of approval was you the removal of the invasives oh in the Wetland area there we were just asked to to have Joe down there and make sure we have a common understanding what the limits of clearing before I have Public Works start cutting that stuff out because I just want to make sure we're not going past where your your comfort zone is okay good topic for discussion dur the pre-evolution group that was number two or number three the periodic inspections the free job meeting and then removal of the ab those are the only three that so meeting 48 hours in advance zoning weans with contractors her and public works and public works also Public Works contractors [Music] under and remove the invas second we meeting with 48 hours prior to the start weekly inspections during the job oh okay right that's the all of those conditions are perfectly acceptable to the town so Commission we will approve the wwwc 2413 I chairman move to approve application I wwc 2413 for proposed for proposed construction of pickle ball courts playscapes Pavilion area and Associated parking and drain structures in accordance with the application submitted on November 25th
2024 and the site drawings St November 2024 this permit will include the standard permit conditions as well as the following special permit condition the applicant will incorporate the recommendations number one and three included in the letter from Hank Bruner a Consulting herpetologist titled re pickle ball court installation Recreation Fields Long Hill Road this dated December 23rd 2024 also we' have we would like have these other recommendations or conditions a meeting between the zoning with the zoning in the Wetland present 48 hours with the contractors in the public works and the herpetologist weekly by the the same parties the zoning and wetlands and the third condition removing Union bases along the r on the Riverside the project he agreed upon invasiv he agreed upon invasiv okay y okay anybody want to Second all in think one quick question unrelated to this but have you guys submitted a yet to the town the for this year correct no all right did you get the paperwork from the town for the budget no I I didn't get know I didn't get you should have had an email to you about a month ago have your [Music] Maybe not maybe you don't have I can give you that but yeah yeah maybe clerk does not
have our new email because we do have a new email possibly why we didn't get that okay all right maybe I could just come down up yeah you definitely could do that or you could just give me a call tomorrow morning I think you're I I feel like the only two things in the commission budget that I'm aware of are training budget you know what you anticipate spending on maintaining commission member training and then the second thing is yeah so the the compensation for the meeting per but for that really all you need to give me is how many meetings you're going to conduct in the year on average and then what the average length of your meetings are and then it's our job to figure to do the math for that any extra so if you gave me a call tomorrow we could probably work through that real quick and all right and in absence of from submitting a formal budget we can probably get the the information for that as a town I do recommend any commission member that that has Education and Training relative to this job that you want to do I wholeheartedly support you so definitely you want
a budget for some training dollars but also be aware that if you ever go over that that should never be an imposition you taking training that's in your best interest so if that ever becomes a a consideration as you blown through your training budget let me know going to the clear Academy stuff the Connecticut land use Academy is great training both for wetlands and for zoning agents and I believe the the Connecticut bar Association land use training is coming up that's also a great one for you know for both wetlands and Zoning commission so I would encourage you to attend that if you can in regardless of whether it's budgeted or not we will definitely figure out how to pay for that for you other than that do any of you have any questions for me thank you for your your time thank you $60 it I iess it C up yeah 40 I say think 40 last yeah so I mean if you want a budget I think that's what we did last year was like I five or six people times whatever the class was and we just put that into the budget oh that's right you did the I did yeah but I think that's how we came up with whatever number we came up with it wasn't very much for the entire year and then right what you're saying yeah we just like said yeah we're gonna have a meeting every month that's I just did it an hour 80 I think it's a minimum of an hour is 84 bucks times 12
is a th000 like it goes over one month there's no meeting it it's right that's what we were saying probably only had five or six meetings so we just covered we'll put it to the maap in case we met every month and this way you should always have enough money yeah then if you have sidewalks or something they'll kind of special so do you have to do anything if we don't have a meeting no she loves it this this and CBA are my easiest to do so I like I like CBA on to the next issue new business I don't see anything there we'll skip that in the agent report enforcement actions yeah I just have two four Sunset L is the one that we talked about last week during the Nutri worksheet discussion and all that the I put a had 14 by 20 foot shed he's going to and then he was constructing a gravel storm water infiltration system so that's what they finished the worksheet and figured out the design so approv that and then the other one is just for was for propane above bound propane tank and then the gas line trench which was the big thing that Happ CU of excavation that's with an Upland VI area so I've seen that before it was
that address yeah on about four years three or four years ago ongoing enforcement action oh really yeah and just continues no well it's new one no but it got resolved so he did he he didn't make that he didn't try to get he started the work and then this no he came in first okay violation o you wonder sometimes do they learn or do they just continue yeah I don't think he was too happy to go through all that work what was it there was 134 Wheeling Road there's Timber Harvest they've been working on it for a few years working on the design it's one of the ones from nrcs and Yukon working on it with them remove ash trees and it's not really like a commercial Harvest it's more of a like a wildlife and you know forestry management type of thing so they put foot gravel down tracking pad in that area and then they're working on a forestry plan so we might see that
there's one one entrance that looks like it's dry and then the other one that there might be a good Crossing involved with that so might be coming coming you know in the next few months or I don't know they've been working on it for a few years I don't howly that's going to happen [Music] no is he is it a private yeah like clearing it to build no just the timber yeah because they're they're kind of like there's a program that Yukon and nrcs does where they come in design like a management plan and they help with the I think they help with funding and stuff too so they R the project there was another one one of the guys on the Conservation Commission had done on his property and then they had an informational session they're trying to get other people too I don't know that's how he got involved they help they do like an invasive clearing program they kind of
try for great it's a nice area over there yeah that some too is that is that some of the land that they were going to build the highway they were going to build the other Highway yeah maybe I'm not o and then yeah there's another U 296 Lake Road they're working on an application for a doc they're going through all they didn't realize they had to go through a commission so may maybe something for next [Music] onebody What's the title of it just like zoning train I was going to just add it so CBA Education and Training planning and zoning so is a PL of Planning and Zoning training yes Connecticut land use Municipal land use it's good training there's probably some stuff it's not it's Planning and Zoning predominantly there's a session for zoning board of appeals kind of stuff and then I think there's a specific session for the wetlands topics and that's that's really good don't know that you want to sit through six hours of threee to get one hour of that but you can kind of pop in and out but it does have you know I think one of the first things is how to run a meeting and
that kind of stuff but so there's a little bit there I'm going to be going you know through the planning and zoning and I've attended a couple times before I learn something every time I go I mean I would be interested in taking but you know it's it's worth the time it's just not a W yeah it's all online so you can kind of hop in and out as you choose well right but I mean for me because this has all been new to me it's interesting and you know like you said you learn at least one thing every time so and then the very last session is all about funny rules you know where guys are trying to put up signs and is it ourwork is it signs and all this kind of stuff you know just some of the funny court cases that we find ourselves involved in throughout the year yeah it' be interested so how would we go about that if we wanted do we have to sign up individually or I think you could do it either way I was talking to Eric about
it like if you wanted them to pay for it first or you could pay for it and then so on on Planning and Zoning you Jim is signing us all up we just let Jim know we're going and he's been taking care of that might be like a group sales or something with yeah the other thing you get is you get probably an inch and a half fit notebook of all the stuff so you get you know paper copies of way more detailed than what they cover on you in the weathers in addition to all the other stuff so just you know getting that handbook is so if you want to sign and you and I you want sign us all up okay I'll try just just find out if we should do it on our pay it on our own or you don't want to pay it on your own okay yeah well you can pay I don't know but it's just you know easier to have the down pay right I was going to say have them pay right off the
yeah okay you use a credit card or he'll take a purchase order I don't know I don't know Jim's always just taking care of or yeah I'm sure Jim has something with them but you do have to let them know that you're going to go right yeah you know you have so they they do two things one they send you an email with the zoom link so that you can watch a thing yeah in the other you'll get the the handout book you in the mail delivered to your house oh okay so and and that's worth you want you should have our emails and stuff
so I would call J and say Jim if you're signing up four or five people here we need these three people added in yeah okay so he probably doesn't have to make all those application no I mean although I think each one I'm not sure okay can we just ask can we can we just say to Jim Jim at us three on or me or whatever yeah all right well you want to do it I don't I mean he's already doing it I don't know do you want to talk yeah so how many one two three and then you're going he's already going I'm I just don't know if I don't know how to get on this thing you need to learn how to do Zoom come on oh I know how to do Zoom well that's all you need yeah okay it's not like anybody's going to call on you right it's not like anybody's even going to be able to seees up too much so do you want us to fill this out or fill this out and give it to you right now I don't know if you did you not much yeah it's not much there that it takes you got to have your
address in your email bar yeah if you want to probably be easier we just give it to you and then sign us up I don't have my glasses so I'm G do the best can oh you're do great good much better than [Music] I oh so how about this one it says no I can't attend a seminar but would like to purchase a copy of the seminar materials that would be much better I'd rather just read right they don't do it they don't do it in person at all any no work out it just worked out too good doing it on Zoom you know you're sitting there with the front seat so to speak and you if you want as long as your computer's not buffering you up that's the only problem with zoom eetings I'm going to gu just get this delivered I don't even really need to give mail yeah right like to purchase one copy now the copy it's just the is it a little yeah oh I didn't check that box you'll get it yeah if I didn't check the right thing I couldn't read it yeah just I'll go to the class nobody's going to send the skate Trooper out your house check on why you haven't know and I don't know is there anybody else on this committee anymore or or we here I haven't seen Brad in a
know no I'm just saying that you know if you want to if there was anybody else make sure that they got it yeah that's thought I wonder if he would want to do this or you know you can get in touch with him even if this is in March right what I'm doing not actually do the webinar but get the information let me get let Saturday for you it's the same price Saturday you could do yes or no and then just that's the that's whatever is there like a certification like a certific certificate or something did you get from it do you know I think I can't remember I think you do I think he do because I think last year and then they asked me the town clerk lady she said to me anytime you get one of those give us a copy and we'll put it in your file yeah never done that far that's what you told have a question about Scott's Tree Farm trees I remember that was isue that came that I like in the pond a couple years ago wasn't supposed to pull all those trees out yeah he was cuz we we went back and for he he decided Well we decided to clear the brush like that you could get and leave the big trees there just because I was like you would need a CR more visible right [Music] now in the summer you don't even notice it I notic you could
drag but it like the so it's kind of like kind of thing because you could get one of those things that yeah you know and then the the Woody debris isn't really necessarily bad for because it's cover and it provides areas for Habitat eggs and you know I get it so it's not like yeah it's an ice like functionally it's not you know not the worst thing you could put in there right and then I was I was the big thing I was worried about was would just cause you know more disturb a lot more yeah especially if it's been in there
for years and how many turtles do we have that we talk about like there's there that many turtles is that what the issue well the ones that Hank was talking about like in the letteres Spott Turtle I'm tured yeah very worried about the turt some of the things that act has the conditions like some of the stuff that you can you have to be careful in vience because we regulate land use and not specific like animal for that's why I like the condition to and he does have he's very knowledgeable yeah you just have to like when you're issuing permits deliberating it just kind of keep in mind that you're not like his protection is a fo I mean I think that was one of the things that I had no idea of when I came to this thing understanding that there were turtles you know whatever like I never thought that that was part of it and it is a big part of yeah but you can't like specifically like that exclusionary fence since it's outside wetlands and it just targets that one species you can't
really force that through the W act like if it was filling the wetlands that was a wood turtle habit that that would be totally for through it but the like exclusionary for like one particular plant or animal species it doesn't really safy panel that keep your keep it ur I've box tur that's the snap doesn't protect they should be though prot yeah know it's interesting I have a good picture of we the meeting so stop can make a motion but he's trying to find his pict of the turtles tur oh just like like little almost how big big very inside this one small but I've seen them about as big as this and then smaller half that size wow I see the way that it's all like got all kinds of serrated like grooves yeah grooves it's really a cool looking I se like walket they're at the park where they're I should say that one time
I stopped because there was turtle in the road yeah I make a motion we adjourn I second all in favor thank