order first up on the agenda is roll call and seating of alternates and I see an CR is present Scott pan is present Steve Nelson's present and I am present are there any other regular members that snuck in at the last minute that I don't have I believe Leanne is joining us yep okay yep Leanne also present are Susan England and anarie dagel I don't see Kevin arneson here tonight so so we've got a full commission no no alternates will be seated next item on the agenda is additions or changes to the agenda and I would like to add a new item I'll call it 5A which would be after the executive session if there was any action that the commission wanted to take it that would have to be after we got back into the regular meeting in so that is not currently on the agenda so I would add session anybody else have any any comments or changes additions to the agenda at this point hearing none go on to item four which is public comment I see Katherine Hutchinson has joined us do you have any comments for it at this point Miss Hutchinson and you are muted if you wanted to say anything I'll take that as a no J you also have someone on the phone but that's yeah I think Leanne is the 5475 number you yes okay yep I thought so we we see
you on there twice oh okay very good no public comments at this point the next item up would be to is the executive session J do you know excuse me Jad do you normally vote to go into executive session I was going to make a motion to vote to go into executive session yes sir okay before we do that are we clear on the logistics to get in there so yeah so what we'll do because we do have a member of the public with us and and you will need to designate who is coming into executive session what I will do is create a breakout room and invite everyone all the Commissioners and any other members any other participants that are invited into executive session into that breakout room I will pause the recording and so you know people who have not been invited in will just be basically essentially left behind in the zoom room until the executive session
is over and the commission returns and for who might come in while the executive session is going on did you say something about posting something or making it clear somehow that that yes yeah okay so I will let see yeah I'll I'll I'll put a message in the waiting obviously there is nobody in the waiting but if if there is anyone shows up in the waiting room I will let them know okay and you're ready to create that Breakout room at this point John yeah after we we make our motion yeah do your vote first I'll hit the pause recording and then I'll open up the Break Up breakout room okay so at this point I'd like to make a motion that we enter executive session this would include all commission members including the alats zoning agent
Hy attorney alen Certo Town planner John gzowski Town Administrator Eric Anderson and you seconded okay thank you any any discussion anybody else that should be in there or somebody that I included should not be in there hearing none I'll take a vote on the move to enter executive session and yeah y did you did you vote I for executive session yes okay Scott hi Steve hi leam hi and I vote I as well motion passes 500 record okay and with that I will make a motion to begin I forget the term that you Ed there alen would say aemotion to authorize enforcement action that's it yep that's what I was missing I make a motion that we authorize enforcement action as of tonight second thank you Leanne any discussion on that motion well if I could well I can't suggest an amendment but just to be clear what what what parcel we're talking about and U okay yep so well I will amend the motion then and I will make a motion to begin legal action legal enforcement
action of the gravel pit at 517 Route 6 as of tonight I'll second down CH if you thank you Scott any other discussion and my assumption is that if we don't hear something back by the next meeting then we can take subsequent more significant action any other discussion call for a vote an i Scott hi Steve sorry I lean hi and I vote I as well that motion passes 500 Z thank you everybody on the commission thank you Allen I think that's that's all we needed you to be here for for tonight okay well thank you very much thank you Ellen yep take care folks okay you Mr chairman yes just a note Katherine Hutchin said at the beginning of the meeting before you went into executive session you had asked for public comment she was unable to unmute herself at that time and I I popped out of executive session for a moment just to make sure that she was in the room and understood what was going on and she indicated that that she would like an opportunity just to maybe ask a question or or be recognized because she had Tech technology issues at the beginning this is Katherine Hutchinson and I have no questions I was very frustrated because I couldn't unmute I
finally did and he was gracious enough to tune me in so I explained what happened but I have no questions thank you okay yep thank you Miss Hinson thank you next item on the agenda is new business which there is none next item after that is old business first up is the venue for Planning and Zoning commission meetings moving forward and so I went out and solicited input from all the attendees at the meeting didn't hear back from everybody but there were a significant I guess there were there were several folks that would attend virtual only and then you know there were fewer number that like the idea of inperson and there were a bunch of people that said while they would probably attend virtually they were okay with doing a hybrid we talked about the Acoustics in the community center I know that an cre reached out to the school and we could use the library there I spoke with Eric today who who thinks that probably in by July we would be able to be in the new Senior Center there's a a smaller room in there that I think maybe the Acoustics would be better and so rather than go through the what might seem to be minor learning curve of using Handover Elementary School for a hybrid location I thought that I would hold off for now until we had access to the community building the senior buil center and look at maybe doing a hybrid at that point you know the there were a couple of things that were I know the meetings run very well from the Board of Education in the library I don't know that that I should expect that we would get the same kind of
set up there and by the time I figure out how to do everything to make that work will be close to July anyhow so at that point based on the input I I got from the commission members my thought is at this point we'll continue to do virtual only until such time as we can maybe do some hybrid meetings in the Community Center Senior Community Center so that's that's my update on the venue for Planning and Zoning commission meetings any other comments or questions on that one Mr chair yep so would just and I think I me may have mentioned this at a previous meeting but just as a reminder the state statute that change relative to Freedom of Information and public meetings indicated that commissions are you know free to choose to have meetings in person hybrid or or virtual only but if you choose to have a in-person meeting and one of your Commissioners one or more of your Commissioners requests of virtual accommodation you must accommodate so so if someone is if someone is fairly adamant or or or certain that they want to participate virtually you know you're going to have at least a hybrid meeting if not all virtual understand thanks John next up under old business was an update of the plan of conservation and development and John I was going to turn over to you if you had anything for us tonight on that yeah I I have just a short overview of a couple of of things and I don't want to belabor this because I know you spent a lot of time in the in the in the executive session but I wanted to present a couple
of just Concepts and maybe begin to think about sort of thematic structure of the plan kind of going forward talking about Vision so I'm I'm going to buzz through just a quick a couple of quick things and show you this so can you see this it's a PowerPoint slide yep got it okay so I I just wanted to give you guys some some concepts of of how a couple of different a couple of different approaches to thinking about community and thinking about looking at a community in its totality so AARP rolled out about a year and a half ago I think what they call their Community livability index and they look at seven or eight different modes of of community and essentially rate different communities essentially by ZIP code on those on those modes so I pulled up Handover 06232 and where it fits and so basically the overall livability index for Andover is 50 average Nation wide is 47 they tried to calibrate it so it was basically a z to 100 in terms of a livability index so it's Andover is just just slightly into the top half of communities you know the basic demographics we we've talked about this the interesting thing is some of the things on the right here and a lot of this you know these are statistical indicators 13% of the population with a disability life expectancy 85 which I believe is slightly higher than National basically all households have a vehicle fewer than 1% without median household income just under 95,000 small percentage below poverty
and their upward Mobility score is 87 which I think is a combination of of a lot of those factors disability Vehicles life expectancy and and income going through a couple joh before you go on I was surprised that the median income was less than 100,000 you know but the I guess I thought that that the median income was maybe 15,000 with when we were talking about that so that that came it it's and and we can we can dig into where the sources of the data are but I assume this is probably American Community survey data yeah okay yeah so I guess the other thing that surprises me is the a small number of people below the the poverty level and I don't know where I I heard or read something about you know the the number of clients that our food bank has or you know and it was this significant number of of families that rely on our food pantry and so I guess only three below poverty I guess you can be above poverty and still need little little help is what that's saying significantly yeah I poverty level is very low it's it's well below I think the the income that you would need to live in and over with with real estate prices taxes vehicle costs and that sort of thing yeah it's it's you know poverty is
just an income thing it doesn't it doesn't include you know consideration of expenses and cost of living so goes through a couple of these factors that and again so they they they look at livability in a number of ways so housing is one which in which and again these were all rankings for and over a little bit lower than the national average I think because there are fewer multif family units housing costs are higher than than they are sort of nationally on average the cost actually cost burden has decreased it used to be about 25% now it's about 17% but there's not as much
subsidized housing so there are certain measures that are getting better there's a little bit more multi family housing costs are coming had come down between 2015 2023 but it's still much more expensive and and you know fewer fewer multif family and subsidized housing options neighborhood proximity and security again about average maybe a little bit below not many not much access to grocery stores and farming Park obviously in town that they indicated access to libraries the no libraries which I think obviously is is both statistically and factually incorrect so I think there's an American Community survey statistical error there diversity of destinations is below national average and and decreasing activity density and again it's that that's jobs per people jobs and people per square mile obviously we have a low density of people and jobs very low crime rate although although increasing slightly I'm sorry no decreasing slightly so it's and and and in the in the best TTI and very and an increasing vacancy rate but again still not that much vacancy so the the again slightly below average on that ransportation again about the same 44 45 not that much local Transit there's let me see where are we about average in trips per household per day very little congestion obviously household Transportation costs are are relatively inine are actually a little bit more expensive than than the
the median and the national view about average speed limits about average crash rates so it's it's you know an overall average rank in there environment ranks quite well 61 out of 100 good drinking water Quality and and improveed there are very few people exposed to drinking water qual violations same with air quality good air quality no no in in their statistical analysis no near roadway pollution I think because of you know there's not in States there's not a lot of you know massive truck traffic and then very little industrial pollution so the environment is in in generally good shape Health in terms of prevention access quality fewer people smoke fewer people are actually obcd is creeping up a little bit but still lower than the national averages there's decent maybe average access to exercise opportunities there is not not a it's a it's a good healthc care professional access I'm sorry sort of average present preventable hospit hospitalization rates and decreasing patient satisfaction in terms of care and again this is you know so that places it sort of in the middle community and so Civic and social engagement decent rates of Broadband in terms of availability and speed good opportun and increasing opportunity for civic opport
Civic involvement they're increasing number of organizations decent voter rate little higher than average low relatively social involvement index I'm not sure exactly what that is we can we can dig it into a little bit and decent number of of cultural arts and entertainment institutions per per 10,000 upper tale and then last sort of access of analysis is opportunities which is inclusion and possibilities and this is the highest rank that that and overscored a basically an average but slightly decreasing or slightly increasing income inequality number again better than average but still declining jobs per worker very very good high school graduation rates 97% in 2023 so that that's much higher than than the median and a decreasing age diversity so again you know as we saw with the demographics discussion we we had a couple of weeks ago that Andover is becoming sort of a little bit more uniformally aging than than it had been but it's the the possibilities and opportunity in Andover are rated relatively high in terms of liability so what does this all mean
not that much necessarily it's it's just one way of sort of looking at the population and the resources in Andover what I thought was more interesting generally was those categories thinking about thinking about how we plan for endover looking at you know not only traditional housing or Transportation but also things like opportunity and engagement and Community inclusiveness so that's that's what one quick analysis the other thing I wanted to share is that the state of Connecticut is up in the process of updating their Planet conservation and development and they're at a draft stage right now they're looking to have a Five-Year Plan adopted in early 2025 for the next five years the state plan has been very vanilla for the last 15 to 20 years and they've basically kept the same structure and the same six growth management principles intact unchanged really UN unaltered in any way for for over 20 years in the state but this current plan that they're drafting which is formally called the conservation and development policies plan they're looking at this very differently and I thought it was an interesting interesting way to to look at planning so they they look at this as a as you can see on the on the right as a pyramid guiding principles
sort of the Bedrock guiding principles at the bottom going into Visions which are sort of priorities for the next five years to be considered somewhat holistically and then implementation measures which are sort of the action steps and then the policies that that will guide sort of State growth wanted to look at those visually when we talk about sort of the Baseline guiding principles the state is establishing these four big principles sustainable Equitable and just vibrant and resilient so instead of again breaking things down in terms of Transportation housing Economic Development conservation open space you know infrastructure they have these guiding principles that that you know will sort of found form the foundation of all the plans to come as they get farther up the pyramid and so I thought that was that was a very interesting and and it's a significant departure from what the state has done before and interesting categories resilient vibrant Equitable and just and sustainable and then going up the pyramid they have the visions and these is five basically statements that they want to see happen in Connecticut as a whole over the next five years and those are a thriving economy housing for current and future residents stewardship of resources healthy people in places and connected and inclusive communities and so what they they they showed here in this sort of multicolored ven diagram is the intersection of some of these things so when you look at you know a thriving economy and stewardship of resources issues of bronfield Redevelopment slips into there or you know connected and inclusive communities and housing for future current future residents issues of broadband or housing Crosser so you know again this is this I I this is sort of a presentation without
conclusion but I wanted to let you know a little bit about what sort of the state is thinking and how they are sort of restructuring their planning process which again the town of andover's plan of conservation and development will be adopted after the next after this this plan of conservation and development at the state level is is adopted because that's will happen basically in January and we're looking you know probably sometime in you know mid mid 2025 that our plan in andova will have to somehow reflect or respond to what the state is doing and so I I just thought it was very interesting and something that we should we should think about andul ultimately talk about is how do we want to think about visioning or establish sort of a framework for what the plan is going to look like and how it is going to be structured and so I wanted to give you those two examples of of sort of different ways of thinking about about communities holistically and I'll I'll stop there but just to say what I would like to do perhaps at the next meeting is begin to talk about the vision and and to sort of hear from all of you I think in a
kind of an open-ended way kind of talk about the the the the good and the bad of Andover and what we want to you know see happen over the next 10 years and and then begin to kind of feel out what we want the structure of of our vision and our plan to be so that's my pitch for the evening sounds good thanks John any any questions for John at that point yeah Chad I have a question John on the the livability index you mentioned that the national average was 47 and we're out of 50 which is great but I'm wondering would there be a benchmark for similar siiz towns within Connecticut that may have you know significantly higher scores than us we might be able to learn from them in terms of improving our scores I I think that's an a really interesting idea I like that the way that this is structured I don't know if they do cohorts so what I can do is check those other places individually and so if we had some thoughts about who we'd like to sort of Benchmark ourselves against I'm happy to put together a little side by side so what what do we think who's who who who does and over measure themselves again good question I I don't know other similar towns like you know I used to live in Ashford I don't know if what their score is but they're a similar size Town sure so towns of towns of to 5,000 something like that that's what I would think would be interesting you know there's no point in US
comparing ourselves to you know major cities or even towns like you know 100,000 people or even 50,000 yeah so yeah I mean a community like uhuh and then even some more distance I mean a town like Chester has about 4,000 people some place like you know sort of Western rings of fair of of of Hartford on the other side like a Burlington kind of thing or MH sure I mean the one thing I would I would suggest the commission does is try to get his Visionary with the PCD as you can I mean really think about what is the community you want to live in you know describe it close your eyes
and describe how you would go about your life in your ideal community and all the assets and attributes you would want in that and then start building a plan collectively for how you get there that's really what you know the name of the game is understand what you want and then understand you know try to come up with a plan to get from where you are now to where you want to be yeah I think that's well put Eric I think that's that's to a certain extent I want to get into that exercise maybe next time time and actually have people put into words some of those some of those big Ideas yeah I agree with everything you said Eric I'm just thinking there are other towns of our comparable size that probably have you know we all have the same vision we want to live in Utopia right but maybe they've they've gone on this journey already and maybe there are things we can learn from them that would help us with our plan why limit yourself to the US well that's a fair point you know in the the Netherland they build communities that are basically self- sustaining and you just ride your bicycle you don't even need a car so oh you're getting Eric excited now I know Eric rides a bike so but I mean yeah there are in Europe there's a lot of communities that way ahead in that regard well if you think
about trying to address you know the cost of living you know John just showed the statistic that the average household spends $118,000 a year on their Automotive transport I mean think about the cost savings you know considering the median income you know is right around $100,000 that's saying 18% of your income is just Transportation how cool would it how happy would a family be if they could shift half of that and get down to $99,000 you know yeah it's a great point an extra extra 800 bucks a month yep and you know it's that's a multifaceted problem you know it's it's public transportation senior Transportation it's you know bicycling and walking to destinations and and designing the town so that's amenable to that but like when I go to Europe I stay with a friend of mine in a town called bad swishin hon which is about two to three times the size of Andover it's more a Hein size but there are bike paths everywhere there's a train station in town with bike parking for a couple of thousand bicycles because it's a bedroom community everybody takes train in where their job is and they ride their bicycle to the train station and lock it up and take the train in to work you know it's it's rethinking fundamentally how you know what the community would be like then dragging people there kicking and screaming you know John I do have one further question I know the legislature was contemplating adding a whole bunch more things to the minimum requirements for the PCD has there has that how has that played out in the general assembly do we know yet I think it was passed out of
committee so it's it's in the you know in the hopper for being brought up on the floor I I definitely didn't get the sense that there was it's a it's anyone's major priority and I've had a couple of conversations with with leadership and and the planning and development committee and you know it's it's it's nobody's massive like number one priority going forward and it's possible that you know you could take some of that stuff like I think they were looking at using sea level rise or or storm frequency numbers and and incorporating that into in the pccd essentially as like a hazard mitigation thing that could very easily get cobbled on to some other piece of legislation that gets passed but as a standalone thing I I don't get the sense of a huge priority but it's it's still a lot so you look for that in the Implement their bill and yeah you know the last minute Implement Bill okay thank you although well yeah don't mean some other piece of legislation this is not a budget year so I don't think we we have a budget implementor this year unless they do do they do adjustments maybe they do they do John and if you want Jed I if people are interested in the little presentation so you can take a closer look I'd be happy
to share it out that'd be great yep yeah I'll send it to you I think that would be helpful next item up under old business is planning his Zone commission appointment to the Capitol region Council of government's Regional Planning Commission and I did attend a recent meeting of that there were several alternates of commissions that were members of that group there were several chairs and vice chairs that were members of that group so I guess I will just make sure that I'm not overlooking an eager person to go participate in that and and bring us back the information they're they're also working on their plan of conservation and and development now but last time I asked no hins went up on wanting to be the a member of that esteemed group and there are some advantages you know to at least have people in attendance at the meetings so that you know when we're asking them for help whether it's Financial knowledge or or whatever you know they know who we are and know we support them and come out to to give us a little help there so I
will ask one more time if there's somebody that would like to be either a primary or an alternate to that group they meet four times a year for you know maybe an hour or so a John I was wondering if we could make you the primary and I would be the alternate for that I don't think I I I could be wrong I don't think staff can be primary I think primary needs to be a Planning and Zoning appointing okay I'm happy to you know I so in so far as I'm I'll be participating I'm happy to represent Andover as well okay then then I guess I will be the primary and we'll we'll make you the alternate and you will assist us as much as you can sounds good thank you next item up is the approval of the minutes from the regular meeting on March 19th 2024 any discussion on those minutes any comments about hem and I had I had no comments on that so hearing none I make a motion to approve the minutes from the regular meeting on March 19th as presented second thank you Scott any other discussion that was Steve yeah oh yep that's right and and I I knew that was Steve's voice too I don't know why Scott came out but that's okay thank you call for a vote an hi Scott hi Steve hi muted I thank you I vote I as well the minutes are approved by a vote of 500 Z next item is Administrative reports starting with the zoning agent Jim yes Fount activity in the in the building office a lot of drainage issues coming in which isn't particularly zoning but nonetheless it is is tends to be time consuming I
did meet with representatives from the Connecticut meditations Society who own the property at 131 Ruth they have been operating place of worship there for for a few years on a minimalist basis and they're and I had contacted them to to come in for a site plan review which is an allowed use in that zone and I spent an hour and a half with two folks from the organization and went over the application process they are proposing to put up a new building I I hope to have an application I really don't think it will be until June but I'll follow up with with that I have not been in contact as yet with the mountain of worship on shotty Mill which is a some sort of worship church that has been there for a number of years and has kind of been like been kind of slid under the
radar I think I I int to contact them I only wanted to take on one religious organization at a time I am getting a number of of blight complaints there's a few on Route Six sent out letters and the way the BL process works is I send out a notice very often I send out a letter and follow and just let people know informally and then I send out a notice violation but then there's a second notice that has to go out which gives them the opportunity to to appeal so I'm in the process oh I sent out two notifications recently for on Route 6 properties that had complaints come getting a number a few other complaints coming in I do have an updated list which I will do intend to post I don't believe it has been as as of yet I am working on a fee schedule I thought I would have it ready for tonight don't it's comparing fees around with about 10 different towns for for everything from zoning permits to subdivisions it got a little more complicated than I thought but but I should have it ready by next month that IDE did happen to notice a new training availability through clear I don't have the exact information but I I will try and post it tomorrow on the website but I believe it's coming up shortly just for those of folks who need the ongoing continu credits it might be something they're interested in that's all I have the moment any questions be happy to entertain them when you said you had a lot of
drainage issues is that be are we talking water draining from one property to another yes pretty much yeah and I mean the reason I mentioned it is just it's been a timec consuming thing people come into the office and and they're looking for maps and they're looking to for Solutions and very often I don't have them but I at least I I could sometimes provide them with with some information plot plans that we may have u in some Direction yeah could I jump in on that yeah so I I mean I'm obviously not your zoning officer but I serve as a zoning officer in a number of communities and I have to say in the last six months we've received more storm water drainage complaints concerns questions than I have in in the last 20 years of doing zoning stuff it's just it's just incredibly wet and there's nowhere for the water to go and and so it's just you know you can't we we would like to issue a cease and assist on mother nature but it it's it it's just it's just super wet and people are people are struggling and and people don't want to hear that it's not their neighbor you know doing something bad and draining onto their property and we could we could crack down on it but it's it's just a bad it's it's a it's a bad season yeah I I know I presented to the commission you know my limited data
collection from last two years of the size of the rain events and certainly 2024 has started out just crazy in excess of what we've seen in the past as far as every rain's a big rain and so that there's there's probably something for our plan of conservation and development with resilience that you know needs to Encompass the fact that we seem to be getting bigger rainfalls lately hopefully we won't be in the drought by June but the rains so far have been plentiful any other questions for Jim oh Jim I know you sent me your little Matrix of enforcement actions and and where you stand on that did you send that out to everybody or was that just to me I did not I will I will take care of that okay Y and you know I think that really does show that there's a lot of a lot of issues that are successfully being adjudicated with without a awful lot of fan fear that Jim's doing a lot of stuff out there so it's is worth it to take a look through that after Jim sends that out to you all any other questions for Jim John you're up if you got anything else for us tonight I I have nothing for okay and sorry that's not true I mean if you want I we did I could report
sorry you Jed and and Eric and I did meet a couple of weeks ago with actually was it last week with Fitch Ryan Fitch Ryan thank you who whose family owns the the Christmas tree farms and is looking to sell or see seek development opportunities on their their property the sort of the most visible property they have on on Route 6 and and so we sort of talked through some options talk through zoning implications and I think they will be probably coming back with a with a development Concept in the you know in the foreseeable future so it was a good
it was a productive meeting I thought and certainly you know when they have that concept flushed out a little bit if they want to present that to the commission that would be great and we can give them whatever feedback that we can before they spend a lot of money finalizing something be happy to add that to the agenda at some point Inland Wetlands a water course commission again we had no meeting earlier this month so nothing to report on anybody got anything Jed I have a question yep we we had talked at and had the the public meeting on the the grants for The Pedestrian walkway yes have those been submitted now what's the status on that yeah John or Eric you wanna so which particular one are you interested in well both but I think primarily the one along the road 316 there so we haven't gotten a final run back from the capitol region Council of governments I have had some ongoing conversations with Satoria who is the lead transportation person at kog on that grant program the long and the short of it I think it's highly likely that we will get that Grant simply because in very strangely there were less dollars worth of applications than they had funding available so they basically said you know unless there's a fundamental flaw with the application they will the projects submitted will get funded so you can assume that one will get funded the
the the second Grant we submitted to de to fund a alternative plan from the town hall down town hall land that connects to the trail that one is I would say probably unlikely to get funded Do's funding they all we have an immense number of applications compared to the funding available and D actually makes their own departments and Parks you know VI for that same funding tool by applying themselves for projects so not only are you competing against Departments of deep that need money but you're competing against everybody else who has a a w Trail application and there are a ton of them so long and the short of it is I don't think I'm going to get that one you know related to Planning and Zoning those are the two major ones I just with John's help submitted a legislative request through Senator Murphy's office for the upcoming legislative session or Congressional session for about $400,000 to install a generator to run the municipal complex as well as finish off the community center and my thinking with that is if we can shift not that we don't have money set aside to complete the community center we do as soon as we satisfy the requirements and we don't have to pay prevailing wage on the rest of the modifications but if I can fund it Grant fund it through the federal government I don't have to worry about the time restriction because those are prevailing wage jobs anyway so you know and if the the federal government's willing to cough up 75% of the cost that still makes it a lot cheaper for us and
gets it done so that's in the works on my theme of liking bicycles I also did put in a small micro Grant through the do to fund the purchase of three ebikes that would be available from the community center so if people wanted to check out and these ebikes are geared towards Transportation not necessarily Recreation so they'll be set up as what a commuting bike would be so and I got the help Department to kick in a little bit of money and we'll put some if the board if we get the first grant they all use some money from another grant that I have to put in some outside lockers for the bikes because I know the board of selecton has some concerns about charging ebikes given the the some of the incidents of fires that have occurred even though it's pretty rare if you buy a decent quality bike so that's that's that I got a couple other grants in the hopper one for Emergency Management Services which I'm pretty sure I'll get and another smaller one for funding equipment for the senior center which I also think I would get because I know what allocation they have for each town so U that's it on the grant front at least in the short term thanks Eric keep your fingers crossed any other discussion [Music] items moving on to miscellaneous again I'm not sure what the dis difference is between miscellaneous and discussion but I will remind everybody looking way out
there you know thank you all for getting the land use training done for the year 2023 that goes on a calendar year so the next requirement will come due in 2025 and that will also be the year that we got the I'm assuming the Connecticut Bar Association will do their one Saturday training session which is good training and allow you to meet all the training requirements that we have so that's an easy way to to plan to get that done if you can make it other otherwise you know you have to get these little lectures as as they come available and and we'll keep trying to point those out to you any other miscellaneous topics moving on to public comment I don't think anybody from the public is left left with us so move on next next meeting May 21st that will be a virtual meeting and at this point I will make a motion to adjourn second all in favor say I I any opposed any abstain motion passes 500 thank you everybody for attending to